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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
/ugh/ this is getting redundant
i think we're fighting for the same cause theresa, but i don't think you have any idea what you're talking about
and i don't want to discount your depression @ age 16, sorry about the bad memories and i'm sure it was pretty ty. |
Right, I have no idea what I am talking about... yet between the two of us, I am the only one who was actually close to experiencing it first hand. :rolleyes:
And no, we are not fighting for the same cause. I do not think that suicide is solely the fault of the person, and I do not think that it is a selfish thing to do. |
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| SuspicionVandit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
yet between the two of us, I am the only one [in the entire universe] who was actually close to experiencing it first hand. :rolleyes:
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what is this, a rofl? i been there and back again |
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| jupiterone |
wow.
sick ing people |
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| Haunted |
everything is a mental illness/chemical imbalances, of course!
that's the kind of attitude that keeps kids doped up on ADD meds
anything can be fixed with chemicals! YAY!
:rolleyes:
as ignorant as most of you are about what it feels like to be sad, depressed, self loathing, do you think that its a crime?
i sincerely hope not, some countries view it as attempted murder. this is the kind of ideology that keeps psychedelic drugs banned. it's my ing mind and its my ing body i'll do what i want with it. it annoys me how controlling people are, ing let people be. it's their life give them freedom to do what they wish. |
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| grooviebeats |
| i tried to kill myself once. I ate a big jaw breaker hoping to end it all and then i started to choke and my dog gave me the Heimlich. Now i have a new lease on life:nervous: |
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| Fast Turtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
People who are considering suicide are not in a right state of mind. There is some kind of disorder that is encouraging them to make that decision, which is often incited by a series of bad instances in their life. Normal, well balanced people DO NOT ATTEMPT TO KILL THEMSELVES. |
No, that's not necessarily true. Ritualistic suicide and suicide in general has been a minority act for as long as we can remember.
While we may be designed to not kill ourselves, we also didn't ask to be alive, and so far, no one has provided a reasonable explanation for why it's necessary to the universe for our survival.
Anyway, part of human survival also lies within the non-acceptance of the everyday goings on of the world. If no one ever rejected or questioned anything and was always content with what was happening, nothing would ever get done, and nothing would ever change. I think a lot of the cases of suicide are people who just have this instinct overactive (genetically or environmentally), and have difficulty reconciling with their life and society any which way they look at it.
With that said, I've tried to off myself several times. I was seriously considering it a few weeks ago.. I won't go into details, but life is tremendously frustrating lately. I still consider it my decision and right to make. |
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| Frenchie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
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I'm sorry to hear all what happened, I really am. I don't wish for anyone to go through such hardships but I still feel as if the act of suicide is stupid and will never understand it( God willing).
I don't think of your situation as selfish, like I said there are some situations that are and some that aren't, but I still think wanting to or thinking about is just so ridiculously dumb. I mean c'mon how messed do you have to be to even have those thoughts cross your mind to the point of recklessness? (and it's not all "chemicals imbalanced balblabla, that's just an excuse for some people) I feel no remorse. Either think it and go through with it or don't even bring yourself to that moment. There are too many "cry wolf" situations that just mold your mind into thinking that's it's all bull and that using the line, " omg I'm going to commit suicide tonight ", is an attention getter. Although that line, I am sure, has saved lives because it was a cry for help , it still gets used way too often now to the point where people don't want to take it seriously.
As for the comment about the alcoholics. Yes it's their problem, not A problem, their personal problem. My father is an alcoholic ( one of the reasons my mother left him ). I feel not one bit sorry for him. Why? because he doesn't have a "problem", hes just an alcoholic. I view it as someone who won't take control over a problem but who is capable of doing so. Alcoholic's don't get my sympathy either. Put down the bottle FFS get get help. If you're too lazy or stubborn to get help..that's your problem why should the world feel sorry for you? |
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| Theresa |
I suppose it takes someone to walk a mile in those shoes to really understand what we're talking about.
Ah well. |
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| Frenchie |
Yup.
I actually had the blessings to have a great life so far, so I'm thankful that I don't know. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Haunted
everything is a mental illness/chemical imbalances, of course!
that's the kind of attitude that keeps kids doped up on ADD meds
anything can be fixed with chemicals! YAY!
:rolleyes:
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Hey let me join in with the roll eyes :rolleyes: :rolleyes:. Quite the wanker we have here. 90% of people that commit suicide have some sort of mental disorder. Be it clinical depression, schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (those are the most prominent). fMRI studies show that there brains are not behaving normally. This is not some sort of myth, it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt. Most people that commit suicide are sick and need help. They can not function normally and are exasperated. They suffer terribly. A good chunk of them commit suicide even with hospitalization. Drugs have been proven to be the most reliable method, specially when coped with counseling. Now all you dumbasses with the 'no respect' or 'less respect' or 'drug company conspiracy' can shove. Do some ing research before you stigmatize these group of people that are suffering so gravely.
On the note about alcoholics and selfishness. Grow up and leave your grudges behind. Alcoholism is usually deeply related to the mental sicknesses that lead to suicide, as is drug abuse. Just because that person did not have the social, mental or economic resources to get help doesn't mean it was selfish. Most of these patients are not even aware that they have a problem to begin with.
Now seriously, there are no credible arguments to say that this is a selfish, premeditated act so why don't we just drop those claims eh? |
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| Yan |
Not for the squeamish.
http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1175506903566.jpg
Copy + Paste.
I'm horrible for laughing at the 4chan edit.
http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1175507399456.png |
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| SuspicionVandit |
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
Hey let me join in with the roll eyes :rolleyes: :rolleyes:. Quite the wanker we have here. 90% of people that commit suicide have some sort of mental disorder. Be it clinical depression, schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (those are the most prominent). fMRI studies show that there brains are not behaving normally. This is not some sort of myth, it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt. Most people that commit suicide are sick and need help. They can not function normally and are exasperated. They suffer terribly. A good chunk of them commit suicide even with hospitalization. Drugs have been proven to be the most reliable method, specially when coped with counseling. Now all you dumbasses with the 'no respect' or 'less respect' or 'drug company conspiracy' can shove. Do some ing research before you stigmatize these group of people that are suffering so gravely.
On the note about alcoholics and selfishness. Grow up and leave your grudges behind. Alcoholism is usually deeply related to the mental sicknesses that lead to suicide, as is drug abuse. Just because that person did not have the social, mental or economic resources to get help doesn't mean it was selfish. Most of these patients are not even aware that they have a problem to begin with.
Now seriously, there are no credible arguments to say that this is a selfish, premeditated act so why don't we just drop those claims eh? |
bzz wrong.
ps, i have lived with those 3 disorders and more. I have been on the meds, i have been strapped to the bed, i have been in the hospitals and it sounds to me like you are feeling guilty for a friend/family who killed themselves and you must now redeem yourself by "spreading the awareness" or, maybe you have a history with these illness and you must find a way to blame someone other than yourself for such a tortuous time of your life.
lemme tell you something buddy, I've been under both circumstances with myself and my ex.
Nobody exactly is to blame for getting mental illnesses like bipoar, schizo, socialphobia, "the crazy", hallucinations, etc. Sometimes parents can be dicks, sometimes high school can feel like , sometimes people are born horribly ugly or fat and can't deal with other people and that affects their psych 10-20 years down the line. The world is the world. Hell, one day i just woke up and i became afraid of human interaction. i hated going to school because i knew i was going to throw up every 30 minutes. became depressed, bla bla bla, admitted, bla bla bla, whatever. hey, its that shy guy, lets name him '******'. the world is the world.
you go to the hospital. you tell them you are depressed? PROZAC. you tell them you hear voices? PROZAC. you refuse to speak? PROZAC. Lemme tell you something, you go to the hospital and you feel much better. why? because you are away from your environment, doesn't matter if they give you meds or sugar cubes, you feel better because you are extracted from your world- home, family, friends, enemies, etc.
and what do the statistics say? Simply put, anyone that gets ed up so bad to get put in the hospital COMES BACK. re-assured.
Someone kills themselves before they return? "doctor: oops, wrong meds, lolz." someone's insurance can't pay for a proper evaluation? "doctor: PROZAC. kthxnbyte"
Years went by, kept taking my carousel of meds. Prozac, Seroquil, Paxil, Remeron, Welbutrin, Lithium, +more"
lemme tell you something about ing meds. they are drugs. they have chemicals inside and they do to you.
what happens when you take XTC? real XTC. It works.
Smoke weed? It works
Drink some Robotussin? It works.
Take anti-depressants? you have to have FAITH in the meds, or else it will not work. FAITH? FAITH? wtf. faith and medicine?
I don't expect friends to just grow out of the ground when I am taking Paxil and suddenly i'm mr social. but , why didn't i ever just ing laugh or smile? kthx anti-depressant, suck my dick
Meds are the most reliable method? this is how i stopped being depressed.
i worked for that
people in Theresa's case and the cases outlined in other posts are a sad form of suicide. This type of suicide is in a grey area. Impulse. People suddenly are thrown into a world of and its like "omg, life can't get any worse. kill myself." They are unfamiliar with this whole "feel way way way way down" state. If they kill themselves, its like OMG PWNED.
However, if they fail to realize that there is something out there called "people who help," then they deserve to get PWNED. And people who help don't give meds. They sit down at a scheduled time and talk. talk talk talk. they talk, you talk, you interact and you get off your chest. you laugh, cry and create a bond with someone that didn't know you from the start. they aren't the father than ed your ass, they aren't the kids at school that called you a fagsucker, they aren't the friends backstabbed you at the N*Sync concert.
We are all in an altered state of mind when we are suffering from mental illnesses, but we are still fully conscious of ourselves and believe me, years down the line, we look back and say "damn, I made some stupid decisions back then."
to summarize, if you don't believe in time machines while you are suffering from mental illness, then you are fully aware to get some ing help. |
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