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| jsyntax |
Hi guys, first post here on TA for me.
I am curious as to wether or not you guys use preset patches when using VST's in cubase.
I have only recently moved from Reason 3.0 to Cubase SX3 and I am not too familiar with VST's and the like.
At the moment I am using Korg Legacy cell, Z3ta+, Ron Papen Blue and Vanguard synth.
Do you recommend any other VST's for uplifting trance, sean tyas style lead's and bass?
Do you use preset's within a VST or do you make your own?
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| echosystm |
those synths are good.
everyone uses presets... and by everyone, i mean people who actually have better things to do with their life other than obsess over a single sound for an hour. :p
it's important to know a bit about synthesis though, because you always need to tweak stuff to get it just right. |
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| SPAWNmaster |
| i agree...it's not necessary to be a master synthesist to produce a great track...but I would steer clear of using presets. If anything use them as a base and tweak away if you have little synth experience. It's worth it to pick up a book or two, read your manuals and learn what you need to make the sounds that you want. |
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| Eric J |
Agreed that you CAN use presets as a jumping off point, however it is very rare that you do not have to do at least SOME tweaking to get it sounding right. Thats where a little knowledge goes a long way.
In my experience, the better you know how to program your synths, the less you'll use presets as you'll know how to get the sound in your head to come out of the synth. |
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| DJChrisB |
| IMO, presets get you 80% of the way to what you want the end sound to be like. The other 20% is tweaking those presets to your liking. |
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| T-Soma |
The other important thing to remember when trying to get that sound is that you need to use other processing and play with other things besides what is just on the synth itself.
And Native Instruments Massive is an awesome VSTI! :D
Plenty of good presets and easy as hell to tweak. |
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| DJChrisB |
| quote: | Originally posted by T-Soma
The other important thing to remember when trying to get that sound is that you need to use other processing and play with other things besides what is just on the synth itself.
And Native Instruments Massive is an awesome VSTI! :D
Plenty of good presets and easy as hell to tweak. |
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| AgentStarchild |
For me, a big part of the process is "obsessing over a single sound for an hour" but maybe I just like pain and agony.
I think whether you use presets or try to synthesize on your own, always save whatever changes you make to existing sounds as a NEW sound so you don't have to reinvent the wheel every time and so that you can get the original sound back if you end up not liking your changes. It's all about having somewhere to start from so you save time.
Peace, Agent Starchild |
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| Eldritch |
Eh, I rarely use presets, mainly because they're often pure cheese or doesn't fit with the track I'm producing. Although some of the Virus TI presets are really good. But sadly they're way overused. I'm actually starting to recognise TI presets in tracks when I listen to ASOT for example. :haha:
| quote: | Originally posted by AgentStarchild
For me, a big part of the process is "obsessing over a single sound for an hour" but maybe I just like pain and agony. |
You're not alone, hehe. Producing wouldn't be fun for me without the sound design process. |
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| david.michael |
| I have a tendency to use presets/patches and then "tweak" them a bit to my liking... mainly because sound synthesis is one area of my producing which is still weak for me. It's my next area of improvement. |
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| ASFSE |
| quote: | Originally posted by AgentStarchild
For me, a big part of the process is "obsessing over a single sound for an hour" but maybe I just like pain and agony.
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why do you do it if it makes you feel pain and agony? i think it's fun trying to come up with new sounds...time doesnt even cross my mind. |
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| DigiNut |
Lots of electronic music hardly uses any synths at all, just samples. Not wholesale, of course, but synthesis just isn't all that important.
Don't get me wrong, it's a good skill to be able to synthesize the exact sound you have in your head at any given moment. But I find that with several thousand presets lying around I can usually find one in about 5 minutes that captures the mood with only a few minor tweaks (or perhaps none at all). And sometimes during that hunt-and-peck process I'll stumble upon something that I wasn't planning to use, but ends up being an excellent addition to the tune.
I "get" synthesis - I guess I'm just lazy. It takes so much longer to start from scratch than it does to flip through a library. Of course, it's rare for me to use any sound - original synth or synth preset or sample - without some layering or a few effects, modulations, a heap of EQ, and whatever else I might have lying around to warp it.
If you enjoy that whole process of sculpting and tweaking a single sound then all the power to ya, I won't criticize that. I just find the technical side of music production tedious enough as it is and would lose interest pretty quickly if I had to deal with the minutiae of every individual waveform and filter. |
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