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What is minimal (pg. 9)
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| stevo_0 |
| man its hard trying to keep up with half you guys, their is soo much stuff to listen tooo :( im still trying to catch up on the last 20 yrs that i missed :whip: :clown: |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevo_0
man its hard trying to keep up with half you guys, their is soo much stuff to listen tooo :( im still trying to catch up on the last 20 yrs that i missed :whip: :clown: |
That might be tough, but it's great that you're trying. Seems like a lot of people are content to remain ignorant of any EDM before the late '90s. |
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| david.sound |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abhay
Wow, I always associated a lot of Trentemollers stuff with minimal.
Now I want to know what really is minimal. The sounds of what I heard were so simple, quaint, and yet intricate. |
yeah, people who like trentemoller have great taste in music. you like great music, you'll like minimal. :D |
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by WardC
The political question I see as most pertinent at the moment is - what is this 'new wave' of the minimal movement doing to the well-established realm of techno and industrial? |
Minimal is the purification of EDM. It clears ground for the melody and warmth to come back. |
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| Project-K |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
i think the word electronica has a specific connotation of meaning something that is very eclectic and undefinable yet electronic. |
Perhaps a consequence of using beatport too much? |
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| SPAWNmaster |
honestly i cant stand the word electronica. its such a misrepresented idea and the word itself has become just as thrown about as "pop". when I hear someone say "oh you like electronica so take a listen to this" and then they put on something that's clearly some poppy trance or something, its the worst!
now i couldn't get away with calling rock music analogica now could i? "electronica" is such a generalized term that really has no meaning except for those ignorant enough to not know the names of even the most identifiable EDM forms.
-my 2cts. |
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| julien2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by WardC
ok, now this thread is getting really confusing. The question was: "What is minimal" - and several people actually took a stab at explaining what it is (an art form, an elemental stripped deconstructed version of techno, blips and beeps (people hate this one), and then some people are trying to throw minimal into a sub-electronic category based on the fact that it isn't dance music, it's simply an art form for the listening.
I take my own views on minimal, yeah it's different, and it's not as "in your face" or catchy as some mainline trance or house acts, but I guess it does have its own place as an art form (musical art) and some people actually enjoy listening to it.
The political question I see as most pertinent at the moment is - what is this 'new wave' of the minimal movement doing to the well-established realm of techno and industrial? In other words, the influence of minimal is turning many artists 'on' to the minimal stage and they are not concentrating on the standard techno sound which has rocked clubs and shows for years. Many complain that the new 'minmal' movement is sweeping in with such force over the whole techno arena, that it's basically killing techno as we know / knew it. I have never been able to dance to minimal or 'rock out' to minimal, only listen to a very long and slowly progressing set while I sit or lay down and shut my eyes to really get into "minimal" music. It's taking the energy and the fury out of techno, as we once characterized much of this long-established musical genre (yeah we hate the word 'genre). It is impossible NOT to see the influence minimal has had/is having on the techno scene in general/specifically THIS scene (techno) as opposed to the trance scene, which is turning to more progressive tunes and branching out in many directions. I would like to hear more opinions/takes on this issue. |
What the hell are you talking about ? Have you ever even been out of the US ? Cocoon, Border Community, Cadenza, Minus parties are huge in Spain and Germany...and they get people dancing and partying till late in the afternoon... |
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| julien2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by phant0m
I always thought that there are Abstract or Experimental tags to describe such music. But I'm into EDM only for three years now, so it's more than possible, that I'm wrong about that. |
Yes these tags exist. But they belong more adequatly to the music which is REALLY abstract and experimental, thus non-danceable.
IDM used to be that, but it got more popular...and more danceable. |
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| julien2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevo_0
hmm, i read about a bit, and checked ishkurs guide.
i sorta like listening or the concept of experiemental or quirky music. because it does have a beautiful or intreaging rebelious or unique sense to it.
especially if you listen to EDM alot :) u need something here or their to refresh yourself from the last 8 hrs of trance/psy/jung sets etc that you have been listening to that day :P
are their any good recommended torrents or artist albums/comps that i can get my hands on.. im interested in the even demo or very basic minimal minimal stuff too.. stuff that you dont even listen to in clubs or really have on to appreciate, but just for experimental appreciation sakes..... |
Try Plastikman, Aphex Twin, Amon Tobin and Monolake, then come back enlightened and tell us about it. |
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| julien2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
honestly i cant stand the word electronica. its such a misrepresented idea and the word itself has become just as thrown about as "pop". when I hear someone say "oh you like electronica so take a listen to this" and then they put on something that's clearly some poppy trance or something, its the worst!
now i couldn't get away with calling rock music analogica now could i? "electronica" is such a generalized term that really has no meaning except for those ignorant enough to not know the names of even the most identifiable EDM forms.
-my 2cts. |
you exactly put your finger on it. electronica is a term that has now been used by every mainstream newspaper and tv channel. it used to have a specific meaning, but eh...well...no |
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| Mr Game+Watch |
Hahahaha, you just made my day :haha: |
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| stevo_0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by julien2
Try Plastikman, Aphex Twin, Amon Tobin and Monolake, then come back enlightened and tell us about it. |
will dooo! i got aphex twins 'ambient works 85-92' cd... any specific album you could refer that has good example of the minimalistic concept? |
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