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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I'm saddened that you think we have nothing to discuss. :(
Tell me - what is the morality of a knife? |
We could discuss it, but we disagree at the most basic level for a discussion like this that the likelihood of any significant concession from either of us is nearly nonexistent. The only possible outcome is one in which the 'victor' is determined by debating ability & will.
Inanimate objects don't have morals. |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Edit: And in my opinion, the significance isn't in the death, it's in the act. |
In a perfect world, every act would result in punishment corresponding to the level of malice in the intent, but that's impossible to determine on a case-to-case basis, and it is entirely independent of the act, itself, meaning that it could or could not support your earlier statement that you feel that the killing of all animals is equatable to that of a human. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by inconspicuous
In a perfect world, every act would result in punishment corresponding to the level of malice in the intent, but that's impossible to determine. |
I'm hardly advocating that we determine punishment for all crimes based on malice and intent (which are impossible to prove 100% of the time), however the actions individuals like Vick are engaged in clearly indicate a serious level of social deviance and malice to which I believe the law is not only capable of, but is responsible for, punishing appropriately.
Unfortunately, he won't be. |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I'm hardly advocating that we determine punishment for all crimes based on malice and intent (which are impossible to prove 100% of the time), however the actions individuals like Vick are engaged in clearly indicate a serious level of social deviance and malice to which I believe the law is not only capable of, but is responsible for, punishing appropriately.
Unfortunately, he won't be. |
I agree. I just feel that 'appropriately' would refer to a different level of punishment if he had hung & drowned 8 humans, instead. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by inconspicuous
I agree. I just feel that 'appropriately' would refer to a different level of punishment if he had hung & drowned 8 humans, instead. |
In general, I think most people (myself included) would agree, however there's no denying that too is subjective.
Just look at the disparity in sentencing for those who've committed murders.
I guess the only concrete thing I'd say on the matter is that sometimes killing animals is worse than humans, and sometimes it's not. |
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| DJ Shibby |
| So can I file a lawsuit against the boxing federation? |
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| Igaryok |
| Put him away for life. |
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| inconspicuous |
question for all of you:
Do you think he deserves more or less time in jail than Rae Carruth? |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by inconspicuous
question for all of you:
Do you think he deserves more or less time in jail than Rae Carruth? |
Third time today I've been asked that question, no lie. :p
Less, but probably significantly more time focusing on his mental health.
I think Ray Carruth was probably just a selfish (bad enough in it's own right), I think Vick might legitimately be a socio- or psychopath.
But that's just me. |
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| Ang ' ela_ie |
This bull happens all the time. The only reason we're hearing about it is because it's Vick (who isnt even that good of a football player to begin with).
Its lame, and Im sick of hearing about it. Its almost as bad as Paris. |
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| nchs09 |
as ang said, happens all the time. bullfighting happens in alot of countries legally. so does fighting. iv never heard about dog fighting legally but we all know it happens illegally. honestly i really dont care, obviously it is bad and cruel but there will always be people hurting animals no matter what.
i just hope vic gets ed in the ass while in jail. i dont care if he spends a year or a month. just a nice ass rape would make me happy. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
a nice ass rape would make me happy. |
Sig material, right there. |
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