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Saudi gang-rape victim is jailedt (pg. 14)
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| Dervish |
Here is a nice little overview of the rationale:
| quote: | Shi’a and the Shortage of Sheep: More Perspective on Gang-Rape in Saudi Arabia
by Faruq ‘Abd al Haqq
The initial BBC coverage of the Saudi court’s recent ruling on gang-rape is more objective than the popular coverage has been. The teen-age victim was not sentenced to lashing for being raped, as seems to be a local custom in Pakistan, but for being alone in a car without a proper mahram (male member of her family). This “crime” is based on the injunction that causing the occasion of sin or even failing to avoid it are equivalent to the sin. Since women, and not men, are occasions of sin, this woman was guilty of adultery even before she was raped by seven other men.
The rapists were also punished by this Saudi court, which is an improvement over some equivalent rulings in Pakistan. One could argue that the basic error of the case, however, from the perspective of the popular Wahhabi culture in Saudi Arabia, was the designation of the crime.
When I studied in Saudi Arabia twenty years ago, I was told by the other students not to talk to the seven students who were packed into a dormitory room designed for one person. When I asked why, they whispered, “Because they do not have souls.” This intrigued me, because I had never met humanoids without souls. I asked, “Do you mean that they are monkeys, or apes, or baboons, or orangutans that merely look like human beings?” The other students were confused by my question, because apparently they had never thought about it before. Finally they replied with what for them was the simple answer that cut off all questioning: “They are Shi’a!”
The judicial error would seem to consist in condemning the Sunni rapists for adultery. In accordance with the irrefutable logic of the ‘urf or common law in Saudi Arabia, which the enlightened King Abdullah is mightily but perhaps over optimistically attempting to eradicate from the face of the earth, the real crime was not simple adultery but beastiality, having sex with an animal! In self defense, of course, the men might advance the mitigating argument that in a modern petrochemical economy there is now a shortage of sheep. |
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| Dervish |
And also since women aren't allowed(/smart enough supose) to drive they can only travel in a car with a male member of their family I take it?
How .
And on a bus I assume some special dispensation against "the words of Allah" is suddenly allowed when practically gets in the way?
I mean for example school buses or does it only apply when girls/women get to a rapeable age?
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Those sinful women trying to seduce us into raping them, praise be to allah that he can be smart enough to tell us to have a male member of their family to keep them in line and stop them from trying to commit adultery on us by making us rape them. |
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| Spacey Orange |
| those animals. i'm walking to work from now on! |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
In an anarchist world, Natural Law might be the law of the land. But in a land where a government claims sovereignty and authority over the land and the people, historically, citizens have had to fight for liberal governmental powers. Is that better? |
They are fighting because their rights have been infringed upon, not because they are winning them for the first time. Freedom is free. Removing factors that impede freedom may not be.
Do you understand the difference? By stating that freedom is not free, you are suggesting that freedom is an ideal to strive toward and not an innate natural right. If it is not a right, who is to say that we actually deserve our freedom? In fact, who is to say that suppressing freedom is wrong? |
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| glass |
| If I was a Saudi woman, I would Tootalllllly buy myself a penis.....................and a zebra, funny looking horse's:rolleyes: |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by glass
If I was a Saudi woman, I would Tootalllllly buy myself a penis.....................and a zebra, funny looking horse's:rolleyes: |
Why not just buy a Zorse instead? |
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| glass |
| Well, I call them hebra's.......but I don't think I could respect an animal that was a result interspecies relation's. |
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| aquila |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
does it only apply when girls/women get to a rapeable age? |
Which is...? |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by aquila
Which is...? |
no idea hence asking :P |
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