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Saudi gang-rape victim is jailedt (pg. 9)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Speaking from an American history perspective, women weren't allowed to vote until 1920. The same way they fought for their rights back then, that's how they would do it. Demonstrate and protest. |
terrible comparison. the two state of affairs couldn't be more different.
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I really don't know what you're trying to argue here. My only point was they will never have the rights we enjoy here in the west until they fight for it, SOMEHOW. I think you're just arguing this for the sake of arguing. When has a government ever freely and without obligation given its citizens rights, out of the kindness of their hearts? NEVER. |
im arguing that your previous post about having no one to blame but themselves shows a fundamental lack of understanding regarding the status of women in the country.
if a woman is not allowed out of the house alone, how the are they meant to organise any type of political resistance? the women in america had a constitution, a properly elected president, and two houses of parliament to hear their claims.
the women in saudi have a court that punishes them for being raped. you do the math. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
:rolleyes:
No, I'm a testament to reality. You must be smokin that afghani taliban sh1t..Unless you can prove me wrong... |
'Reality' is the sake for which the self-righteous take as dogma and try to shove down the throats of those who won't "believe". Careful where you point all that patriotism.
What you are asking for is mass suicide. Even if the citizens of Saudi Arabia, male or female, disagreed with their government's human rights policies, how would they go about staging a coup? Maybe arm themselves illegally, organize in secret and wear masks to protect their identities and, subsequently, their families? Wage guerilla warfare against one of the most powerful oil giants in the world? Wage a private revolution against one of the United States' largest oil suppliers? Yeah. that wouldn't get any attention. Revolutionaries wouldn't be marked as terrorists. their families would not be lined up in the streets and shot, innocent people in trains, buses, cars and streets wouldn't be hurt in the process and in the end, they would surely defeat the IDEA of Islamic Law in a society that is inherently religious. You can sit in safety, thousands of miles away, and judge the unwillingness of individuals to toss themselves into a meat grinder all you want, but just because you're all sorts of high and indoctrinated to worship 'freedom' doesn't mean that you are free by any means.
Do not think that I am all that ignorant to the cost and the reward for revolution; for change. There is always a price to pay. but the decision of sacrifice is not one to be taken lightly and most certainly should not be made by you or I, for that matter. |
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| lücid |
this thread is getting way too serious. :o
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| wow. me and halycon have been agreeing a lot lately. something must be in the water.... |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| I started using one of those PuR water filters you keep in your fridge recently. I love it. |
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| Silky Johnson |
I would probably have sex.
Ahahahahahahaha. It doesn't even make sense! |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I started using one of those PuR water filters you keep in your fridge recently. I love it. |
im lucky enough to live in the last part of australia that has abundant water supplies, so its clean gorgeous tap water for me. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
I would probably have sex.
Ahahahahahahaha. It doesn't even make sense! |
You've been hitting the Jenkem lately, haven't you? |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
im lucky enough to live in the last part of australia that has abundant water supplies, so its clean gorgeous tap water for me. |
Yeah, the tap water here is "clean" in the mineral sense. But I don't trust all the mind control chemicals or "flouride" the US government puts in it. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You've been hitting the Jenkem lately, haven't you? |
I just got horny a little, ok? IT'S NOT JENKEM! :mad: |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| Oh, it's Jenkem. |
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