Originally posted by Googooly
wowww!!! Incredible! If they are fake, they sure as hell look so real to me.
thanks alot man!
Don't be such a sucker. A number of those, most famously the one with the woman in the helicopter, are confirmed to be fake by the people that created them. This goes to show that just because they look real that's not grounds to think that they actually are.
THE_Chris
I pity the aliens if they pick Texas as the place to make first contact.
SuspicionVandit
San Diego on New Years
Fox used to have a lot of neat shows on UFOs, aliens and the paranormal.
I'm guessing once the X-Files lost its steam, so did the interest. :/
Vivid Boy
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Originally posted by Meat187
People are idiots.
There's no such thing as aliens visiting us in their flying saucers. Neither are they watching us from some far place in the universe. Anybody with the slightest knowledge about physics and information theory will know that both is impossible.
and because ur a creditable phsycist right?
jupiterone
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Originally posted by Vivid Boy
and because ur a creditable phsycist right?
woooooosh!
Elec
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Originally posted by Meat187
People are idiots.
There's no such thing as aliens visiting us in their flying saucers. Neither are they watching us from some far place in the universe. Anybody with the slightest knowledge about physics and information theory will know that both is impossible.
I guess I'm an idiot and don't have a slightest clue about physics. On the other hand, you don't seem to have much clue about grammar.
SuspicionVandit
Chemists and physicists have horrible grammar that they often humorously poke themselves at.
And considering we have no complete understanding of the universe (G.Relativity + Quantum), I don't think that gives us any ground as to what is possible.
Vivid Boy
we're not even 100% sure how gravity works
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by steven-neil
I believe that there are far more superior beings out there that look at us in the same way that we look at ants,,bees etc..Yeah,,it's incredible that an ant can lift 20 times its own body weight but at the end of the day 'it's still a ing ant'..Aliens have prolly got no intention whatsoever in coming to earth in the same way that I have no desire to join an ant colony...I believe the answer is that simple...
Think about it,,how many ants in one colony have ever seen a car ????...Prolly a very small number in a colony of millions and I guess the ones that claimed to have seen a car get laughed at or called liars...
idiot.
T-Soma
I don't really look into this stuff that much but from what I see UFO sightings are predominantly in the U.S.
Would I be correct in saying so?
Because I would have thought that if these outer planetary beings are coming to earth that they would have at least been looking for some more intelligent life forms :toothless
Personally, me thinks if its not a fake video, its military testing shiz.
Zharen
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
we don't even know that warp speeds are possible.
But we haven't yet proved that it is impossible.
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yeah, they travel across the universe to secretly research us but get caught by rural texans.
Ehh, I wasn't referring to only the Stephenville incident, but alright, you got me on that one.
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and it would be silly too. given the size of the universe i'd be very surprised if we were the only intelligent life. but its far sillier to assume that little green men have solved the problems of intergalactic travel without any evidence.
So we agree on one thing. I admit that it's difficult to sway one's opinion on something without any concrete evidence. But let's not make a mistake and assume that the same minerals, metals and energy resources that make up the Earth also make up every single world. It's possible that other sentients have access to greater metals and forms of energy found only on their world, and have used it to master space travel. Obviously I can't prove this, I'm simply putting the idea out there. We can't just assume that our understanding of our world and the laws of physics apply to every other area in the universe.
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how "intelligent" an advanced species is would depend a lot on the age of the part of the universe that they come from. if older than us then i'd wager we were behind in the title race ;)
there's a pretty big jump between accepting the possibility of life in the billions of star systems in the universe, and arguing that someone is (not so) clandestinely investigating us from an area of space hundreds/thousands/gigabajillions light years away.
Well I wouldn't call it silly. Unlikely perhaps, but not silly. Here, take the Mars mission for example. There doesn't seem to be any reason for us to explore our closest neighbor, but science and curiosity has propelled us to send rovers on the planet to collect data for us. Even if there isn't any sign of life on the planet, we explore it anyway, just to see if there may be anything of remote interest to us. So it's possible the aliens are thinking in the same way. Maybe they want to study more about pineapples or communicate with humpback whales (Star Trek reference), either way we shouldn't deny that our planet may hold something of some interest to someone else out in space.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Zharen
But we haven't yet proved that it is impossible.
that's irrelevant. first you are saying "there are alien species" and then you are saying "they have mastered intergalactic travel"; two pretty huge claims with little to no evidence. you're taking an awful amount of faith based on rumour and conspiracy theories.
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So we agree on one thing. I admit that it's difficult to sway one's opinion on something without any concrete evidence. But let's not make a mistake and assume that the same minerals, metals and energy resources that make up the Earth also make up every single world.
that is of course a valid point. but for life to start on a planet, there are a lot of factors that need to align properly, so without any evidence (yet) to the contrary, i see no reason to assume an inhabitable planet is particularly different to our own.
look at the ifs
if they are intelligent
if they can solve problems of travel so far our current understanding says its impossible
if they even know we are here
that's a huge bunch of stuff you have to have blind faith in to believe in this stuff. too much for me, absent any real evidence.
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It's possible that other sentients have access to greater metals and forms of energy found only on their world, and have used it to master space travel. Obviously I can't prove this, I'm simply putting the idea out there. We can't just assume that our understanding of our world and the laws of physics apply to every other area in the universe.
to me its not a question necessarily of scientific inability, its more the distinct possibility that faster than light travel and wormholes are impossible.
again, taking that into your thesis without any evidence at all is a pretty large leap imo.
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Well I wouldn't call it silly. Unlikely perhaps, but not silly. Here, take the Mars mission for example. There doesn't seem to be any reason for us to explore our closest neighbor, but science and curiosity has propelled us to send rovers on the planet to collect data for us. Even if there isn't any sign of life on the planet, we explore it anyway, just to see if there may be anything of remote interest to us. So it's possible the aliens are thinking in the same way. Maybe they want to study more about pineapples or communicate with humpback whales (Star Trek reference), either way we shouldn't deny that our planet may hold something of some interest to someone else out in space.
yeah, but they avoid all of the instruments we have designed to look at the sky and keep an eye on our neighbours, yet get caught by citizen joe with his mobile phone camera? sorry, i need more (any?) evidence.
too many very unlikely ideas need to line up before the whole thesis is possible, too much to take on board without more evidence.
