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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Add it to the list then - it doesn't discount software piracy/theft from being just that: theft. |
How is making a copy of a thing the same as stealing that thing? That's what I don't get.
Go back to the painting example. Am I stealing the painting as I paint a copy of it? |
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| Darkarbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no, youre the one that's pretty ing stupid. he wasn't talking just about TQ you halfwit, he was talking about developers in general. way to miss the point arseclown :rolleyes: |
It still doesn't change anything... |
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| Darkarbiter |
And for the record... I bought titan quest... and the expansion.
The expansion was a ing joke... with the rubber banding issues... and in particular the map editor doesn't work at all (you can't add or modify monsters... which obviously makes it pretty useless). |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Darkarbiter
It still doesn't change anything... |
which part exactly?
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"We had one reviewer who didn't know he could portal back to town" and how is that not your fault or bad luck? And I doubt that you've had that much more badluck than anyone else. |
what - that reviewers are stupid and couldnt work a tutorial, read the manual, or notice a tooltip?
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"Hardwire manufacturers are making crappy products." Is that suggesting that other game makers don't have to deal with that? Seriously. |
that PC games are awful to write for because of all the different technologies making coding (and support) really hard? where did he state that other developers dont have to deal with it?
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Why didn't you design a program that detects what stuff your computers running and what driver version? If this was such a major point. |
just reeks of a lack of understanding of how PCs actually work.
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For every idiotic review of TQ there is going to be an idiotic review of something else. Seriously |
not true. the big and influential magazines/websites make anything else irrelevant, if they make a mistake it can we be game over. |
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| Darkarbiter |
Well reviewers jobs are to review games for the average person and if one in 10 reviewers can't work out how to portal than maybe 1 in 10 people can't either (although admitably it was pretty damn obvious). It really just depends on which reviewer it was... and how big they were.
"You lack understanding of how a pc works". Well then explain it to me... I know it'd be a lot of work but aren't they losing a lot of money because of this? I'm not sure... but surely getting a program to check registry isn't that hard. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
How is making a copy of a thing the same as stealing that thing? That's what I don't get.
Go back to the painting example. Am I stealing the painting as I paint a copy of it? |
I think it's an apples and oranges comparison you're making. How many people are generally involved in the creation and marketing of a painting?
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And I might even be willing to make the argument that even in the case of the painting, you are indeed stealing it. Of course, what does and does not constitute the theft of an idea may be a matter of debate to some - but when it comes to how you're describing intellectual properties, you might as well use the words "copy" and "steal" interchangeably as far as I'm concerned. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Darkarbiter
"You lack understanding of how a pc works". Well then explain it to me... I know it'd be a lot of work but aren't they losing a lot of money because of this? I'm not sure... but surely getting a program to check registry isn't that hard. |
because how would this work/fix anything? its not going to prevent conflicts. new hardware is coming out all the time (think of how much hardware is released in a gaming production cycle of 3 years) you can't possibly anticipate and check for all pieces of hardware, which is why there are problems.
factor that into the infinite types of software that can cause the same issues - having a program to check the registry is pointless if the program is unaware that combination X = crash. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Welp, I'm gonna watch some porno. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I think it's an apples and oranges comparison you're making. How many people are generally involved in the creation and marketing of a painting?
:conf:
And I might even be willing to make the argument that even in the case of the painting, you are indeed stealing it. Of course, what does and does not constitute the theft of an idea may be a matter of debate to some - but when it comes to how you're describing intellectual properties, you might as well use the words "copy" and "steal" interchangeably as far as I'm concerned. |
especially if we're focusing on the loss of revenue, not the physical characteristic of the medium in question. in the case of the painting, its call forgery.
anyway, i still dont see what the point of the semantic argument is. its costing the developers money, how that isnt "stealing" by some i'll never know (or care). all i do know is my favourite past time is becoming more and more generic due to lacklustre game sales. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
And I might even be willing to make the argument that even in the case of the painting, you are indeed stealing it. Of course, what does and does not constitute the theft of an idea may be a matter of debate to some - but when it comes to how you're describing intellectual properties, you might as well use the words "copy" and "steal" interchangeably as far as I'm concerned. |
I think we just have different ideas of what "steal" means. When I think of "stealing," I think of a situation where somebody makes off with something I own, after which I no longer have it; it's a situation where somebody deprives me of something. |
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| Darkarbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
because how would this work/fix anything? its not going to prevent conflicts. new hardware is coming out all the time (think of how much hardware is released in a gaming production cycle of 3 years) you can't possibly anticipate and check for all pieces of hardware, which is why there are problems.
factor that into the infinite types of software that can cause the same issues - having a program to check the registry is pointless if the program is unaware that combination X = crash. |
Well if it detected that your program was crashing because you had an outdated driver... that'd help the stupids. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
in the case of the painting, its call forgery. |
It's not forgery until you try to pass it off as an original. |
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