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How to innovate trance...? (pg. 9)
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| Docuebag 100% |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
WTF? Since when was trance defined by the supersaws? |
Uhh, uh....
Since the Dutch got their hands on it.:p |
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| Docuebag 100% |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
not really
it just takes balls
you have to take a risk in order to be original, you have to embrace your mistakes and missteps, and move out of your comfort zone.
maybe uplifting trance is so comforting to people that it makes it more difficult :p |
Well the problem is being original and sounding good at the same time.
Look at the visual arts. I can get a urinal and flip it over and call it original and art. I think that's a bunch of crap. So do many people. People in their ivory towers and so-called intellectuals will call it genius. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Docuebag 100%
I could say that trance should stop using super saws. It's part of the genre. Change it, and it's starts to not sound like trance.
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I`d actually take a Supersaw over those plucky Anjunabeat tracks with chopped up vocals and rolling basslines any day. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Docuebag 100%
Well the problem is being original and sounding good at the same time. |
this is the root of the problem. we need a paradigm shift in regard to what 'sounds good'.
this is what i meant with getting out of one's comfort zone.
there are a lot of classicists that think something like aphex twin sounds horrendous, but then there are a lot people that think aphex twin sounds awesome... |
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| Subtle |
| Most people will like Generic Trance, just as most people like Pop music. |
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| PETRAN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
I`d actually take a Supersaw over those plucky Anjunabeat tracks with chopped up vocals and rolling basslines any day. |
+1
Almost all of them are extremely boring (well, i only like a few Daniel Kandi productions). IMO, Anjunadeep as well. Completely uninspired and generic. |
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| Trance-MB |
| quote: | Originally posted by Docuebag 100%
Uhh, uh....
Since the Dutch got their hands on it.:p |
Then you probably are the one who asked at youtube if people from Holland and Germany are called the Dutch... :)
Before the Supersaw (eg Cygnus X - Superstring (Rank 1 Remix)) there were other synth sounds which were extremly popular. EG DJ Quicksilver and Three'n'One.
Three'n'One - Reflect
Three'n'One - Sin City
DJ Quicksilver - Bellisima
Red 5 vs. MC Miker G - Da beat goes
I bet most synthesizer lovers all like these sounds. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Docuebag 100%
If the "generic" trance that TA hates so much is so easy to make, why isn't everyone famous? |
Maybe because quite a few producers don't care about "getting famous," or even if they do, they would rather not do it via the route of copying what's already out there?
| quote: | | Just because the tools are there doesn't mean it's easy. And even if music is cheesy, doesn't mean makin' it is easy. |
The fact that something isn't easy doesn't mean it automatically deserves respect. Digging a hundred deep holes with a teaspoon and then filling them back in would be very difficult.
But it would also be pointless. :p |
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| Vortex_SA |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
not really
it just takes balls
you have to take a risk in order to be original, you have to embrace your mistakes and missteps, and move out of your comfort zone.
maybe uplifting trance is so comforting to people that it makes it more difficult :p |
its actually the safe zone of labels... if you could just "release" tracks to the wide open air and earn something from it it would be easier to do (you wouldnt sell your hard worked music for free right?)... but you need your back covered with a label to protect from stealing and stuff like that... and the labels need you... to make money... so making a groundbraking new sound and build is one thing... but there is a long road from there to getting your stuff released... |
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| Jimmy |
| Trance is dead. Deal with it. |
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| eckmek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vortex_SA
its actually the safe zone of labels... if you could just "release" tracks to the wide open air and earn something from it it would be easier to do (you wouldnt sell your hard worked music for free right?)... but you need your back covered with a label to protect from stealing and stuff like that... and the labels need you... to make money... so making a groundbraking new sound and build is one thing... but there is a long road from there to getting your stuff released... |
What if a producer just doesn't care that his music gets stolen or he doesn't make any money on it? Have you ever thought about that at all? |
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| Axer |
| quote: | Originally posted by eckmek
What if a producer just doesn't care that his music gets stolen or he doesn't make any money on it? Have you ever thought about that at all? |
Absolutely disgusted on such people, their races and their two faces! :mad: |
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