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| MeLLyMeL |
1. I used the wrong word.. my bad. He should instill?? What's the word I'm looking for!?! haha
You are mixing things up. You are not a girl right? Fathers are different with boys then with girls. A father can tell a boy you're fat.. Men aren't really known for having low self esteem for that. Maybe they are "Manorexia" :lol:
A mother telling her daughter she's fat in a BAD WAY is the bad thing. Telling her "oh u gained a few pounds here and there" isn't. I never said these statements are the ones that daughters start stripping. I;m saying that girls get complexes with the way they look if they don't hear positive things in their life.
I've got friends that are strippers now and I find it 100% wrong. My girlfriend should be in a relationship focusing on her futue. sag and you get ugly one day. Why not waste all that energy on promoting a future either with someone or trying to better yourself?
& lets face it.. the dad's that are proud of their daughters whorishness is not what i am talking about :)
Edit - in the end you can not deny the young girl is like that because both of her parents don't care. Or they care when it's too late. |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
1. I used the wrong word.. my bad. He should instill?? What's the word I'm looking for!?! haha
You are mixing things up. You are not a girl right? Fathers are different with boys then with girls. A father can tell a boy you're fat.. Men aren't really known for having low self esteem for that. Maybe they are "Manorexia" :lol:
A mother telling her daughter she's fat in a BAD WAY is the bad thing. Telling her "oh u gained a few pounds here and there" isn't. I never said these statements are the ones that daughters start stripping. I;m saying that girls get complexes with the way they look if they don't hear positive things in their life.
I've got friends that are strippers now and I find it 100% wrong. My girlfriend should be in a relationship focusing on her futue. sag and you get ugly one day. Why not waste all that energy on promoting a future either with someone or trying to better yourself?
& lets face it.. the dad's that are proud of their daughters whorishness is not what i am talking about :) |
1. Lol. My father tells my sisters they are fat, not me.
2. "I'm saying that girls get complexes with the way they look if they don't hear positive things in their life." - So you're saying that mothers can't provide positivity in a girl's life? That a majority of mothers prefer to put their daughters down rather than compliment them?
3. Yes, stripping isn't a good investment in one's future, but if it pays the bills temporarily, why not?
4. Dads that are "proud of their daughters whorishness" exist in surprisingly large numbers, and are hence relevant to the discussion.
Mothers or fathers can be a good or bad influence on their child - I don't think gender makes any real difference. Sure, a girl who grows up without a Dad might feel nervous around men as a result, or some other small side-effect, but I think it's extreme to claim that ANY girl with no father figure will suddenly lose all morals and self-esteem.
You still haven't really answered my question as to why a lack of father figure will produce a women with bad values, other than to repeat "it just will", or words to that effect. |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
A father can tell a boy you're fat.. Men aren't really known for having low self esteem for that. Maybe they are "Manorexia" :lol:
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This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read...you don't actually believe that do you?
Boys are just as likely as girls to develop low self esteem if their father calls them fat, or makes other comments about their appearance.
All of your arguments are just baseless assertions and generalisations. |
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
Boys are just as likely as girls to develop low self esteem if their father calls them fat, or makes other comments about their appearance. |
Agreed... my father's real dad was a real piece of work, and he used to call my dad fat, call him a sissy for being into music instead of sports, etc. and he had a lot of self-esteem issues from that.
My little brother gained a lot of weight very quickly just before middle school and some kids made fun of him for being fat, and he broke into tears by the time he got home.
"Maybe they really are sissies" jokes aside, self-esteem issues are not limited to females. |
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| MeLLyMeL |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read...you don't actually believe that do you?
Boys are just as likely as girls to develop low self esteem if their father calls them fat, or makes other comments about their appearance.
All of your arguments are just baseless assertions and generalisations. |
It is a gerneralisation. Out of my friends I can tell who had a real father in their life and I see how important it is.
I never said it was EVERY GIRL or it's a proven fact. But fathers who get that twinkle in their eye from their little girl will have their daughters grow up with the right morals.
My father was always in my life and making sure I made the right decisions. I was never allowed to be out late or be out screwing 80 guys like that girl.
MOTHER and daughter relations are different from FATHER daughter relations. I'm glad that I still have that close relationship with my father. I think it's gross that her father won't step in and slap that little bitch around.
& You guys with ur emo low self esteem . Gimme a break. Of course kids are harder on kids so that's why your brother came home crying. Father's give their boys tough love.
My grandfather never told my dad the words "i love you" and my dad didn't grow up to be a little bitch cuz of it. You just know he did. |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
It is a gerneralisation. Out of my friends I can tell who had a real father in their life and I see how important it is.
I never said it was EVERY GIRL or it's a proven fact. But fathers who get that twinkle in their eye from their little girl will have their daughters grow up with the right morals.
My father was always in my life and making sure I made the right decisions. I was never allowed to be out late or be out screwing 80 guys like that girl.
MOTHER and daughter relations are different from FATHER daughter relations. I'm glad that I still have that close relationship with my father. I think it's gross that her father won't step in and slap that little bitch around.
& You guys with ur emo low self esteem . Gimme a break. Of course kids are harder on kids so that's why your brother came home crying. Father's give their boys tough love.
My grandfather never told my dad the words "i love you" and my dad didn't grow up to be a little bitch cuz of it. You just know he did. |
Ah , throw down your shovel, please.
"Fathers give their boys tough love"?
What is that supposed to mean? That all fathers are hard-arses?
"My father was always in my life and making sure I made the right decisions. I was never allowed to be out late or be out screwing 80 guys like that girl."
AGAIN - A mother can do exactly the same thing. On the other hand, it's just as likely that you could have scored a neglectful father who DIDN'T look out for you, and let you screw as many guys as you liked. |
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
You guys with ur emo low self esteem . Gimme a break. Of course kids are harder on kids so that's why your brother came home crying. Father's give their boys tough love.
My grandfather never told my dad the words "i love you" and my dad didn't grow up to be a little bitch cuz of it. You just know he did. |
My dad said "I love you" or "love ya, son" to me on more than one occasion, and I didn't grow up to be a little bitch.
Also, funny how it's okay for a girl to have self-esteem issues, but if a guy does, it's "emo bull".
I don't have self-esteem issues, for the record. I just think that your plethora of overgeneralizations are amusing. |
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| MeLLyMeL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
1. Lol. My father tells my sisters they are fat, not me.
2. "I'm saying that girls get complexes with the way they look if they don't hear positive things in their life." - So you're saying that mothers can't provide positivity in a girl's life? That a majority of mothers prefer to put their daughters down rather than compliment them?
3. Yes, stripping isn't a good investment in one's future, but if it pays the bills temporarily, why not?
4. Dads that are "proud of their daughters whorishness" exist in surprisingly large numbers, and are hence relevant to the discussion.
Mothers or fathers can be a good or bad influence on their child - I don't think gender makes any real difference. Sure, a girl who grows up without a Dad might feel nervous around men as a result, or some other small side-effect, but I think it's extreme to claim that ANY girl with no father figure will suddenly lose all morals and self-esteem.
You still haven't really answered my question as to why a lack of father figure will produce a women with bad values, other than to repeat "it just will", or words to that effect. |
2- hearing compliments from both is important but hearing it from a MALE figure is a tad more important. I never said ANY girl but there is a vast majority of these "i do what i want" type of hoes at an early age.
3 - if u want to be a deadbeat dad then go ahead. but i'm telling you from experience with my life and friends heading in the right direction. whenever we have a problem.. it's better for us to run to Dad. So it is important to have him there all your life. There is not poll out there but I can prob bet that these young girls without a father that act this way vs. fathers who support them acting that way is a big difference.
Moms are easy... They are easy with sons, they are easy with daughters. I know I will prob be easy with my kids too whenever I have them. You need a strong enforcer [dad's job] to balance things out :) |
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| MeLLyMeL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
AGAIN - A mother can do exactly the same thing. On the other hand, it's just as likely that you could have scored a neglectful father who DIDN'T look out for you, and let you screw as many guys as you liked. |
which is just the same as not having a father.
edit-| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
"Fathers give their boys tough love"?
What is that supposed to mean? That all fathers are hard-arses?
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that was more to whoever said the thing about their grandfather calling their dad a sissy or whatever. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chris Crossland
If we had the technology in the late 60's to send beings of this earth, give or take 250,000 miles (They went that far away from the nearest McDonald's) into space you would think we, or another country would have gone back by now.
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what is there to go back to? the moon is a giant ball of dust. the only reason for returning is to use it as a way-point for travel to other planets. |
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| Massive84 |
| i havn't read the 5 pages. But mom's face indicates she is on crack. |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
2- hearing compliments from both is important but hearing it from a MALE figure is a tad more important. I never said ANY girl but there is a vast majority of these "i do what i want" type of hoes at an early age.
3 - if u want to be a deadbeat dad then go ahead. but i'm telling you from experience with my life and friends heading in the right direction. whenever we have a problem.. it's better for us to run to Dad. So it is important to have him there all your life. There is not poll out there but I can prob bet that these young girls without a father that act this way vs. fathers who support them acting that way is a big difference.
Moms are easy... They are easy with sons, they are easy with daughters. I know I will prob be easy with my kids too whenever I have them. You need a strong enforcer [dad's job] to balance things out :) |
Ok, so now we're getting somewhere.
2. WHY is it more important to hear compliments from a father figure? Because females crave the attention and affection of men, due to their hardwired biological urge to have sex with them? Ok, point taken.
3. What? This point made NO SENSE.
4. Mums are "easy". As I said, that's completely wrong. I know plenty of nutcase Mums (ask Greek and Italian boys) who hit their kids and swear at them, while the Dad is laid back and does nothing, even when the kids up badly.
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
which is just the same as not having a father.
edit- that was more to whoever said the thing about their grandfather calling their dad a sissy or whatever. |
Uh...no it's not.
Having a bad father who lets you sleep around is not the same as having none at all, because then the mother will have to step in and do the parenting that the absent father is not there to do.
Besides, as I've said for the third time now, gender is largely irrelevant - personality is more important, because you can have good and bad fathers, and good and bad mothers. Depending on which one you get (good/bad), you're going to turn out a certain way, regardless of whether you had one parent or two.
Ok - how's this for a spanner in the works? Two gay guys adopt a girl and raise her - is she going to end up a whore, or someone with high values?
You can't say, because it's not dependent on gender or sexual orientation, but whether the parents have high morals themselves.
Again - two gay fathers (or any other "unusual" parent situation) raising a child will obviously have significant effects on the child's personality, but not on the child's morals. |
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