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FAO Anti-Zionists. Serious question (pg. 7)
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Kinezi
I dont understand how people live in Palestine? Do they have universities? And careers like a dentist or a artitecht and something like that? Are Palestinians allowed to fly abroad? Like as a tourist or for further studies?
Krypton
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Originally posted by Kinezi
I dont understand how people live in Palestine? Do they have universities? And careers like a dentist or a artitecht and something like that? Are Palestinians allowed to fly abroad? Like as a tourist or for further studies?


They have universities. But career-wise, it's hopeless. The economy is in shambles. If one wanted to fly abroad, they would have to travel to Jordan or Egypt first, as Palestine's 3 paved airports are for Israel's military only. Gaza is under a blockade, most notably marked by the refusal by Israel to allow several students with a Fulbright scholarship to travel to the USA for a collegiate education.
emc^2
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Islamophobia? :rolleyes: what has Israel done for you personally or to the world for that matter to gain your blinded support?


A lot more than your arab chronies done for you to gain your blinded support.


srsly, don't you ppl ever get tired of flinging ? do you really think that Israel's presence and existance causes more harm than good? Do you honestly believe that if Israel leaves occupied territories (not Jerusalem) it will all be peace, love and happiness over there? and even if jerusalem was vacated, do you think that would be enough? No. That would just validate the position of all the organizations that are currently trying to erradicate Israel. It will serve as a reward and provide motivation for further activities. Why stop at pre 1967 borders? Why stop at complete control of Jerusalem? Why stop at Sheba farms? What would be the motivation, if the existing policies worked so well?

WHERE ARE THE GUARANTEES?

Furthermore, do you really think that Iran would all of the sudden say - well, great, now we have no reason to have a secret nuclear program, let's dismantle our a-bombs?

Are you really that naive?

And lastly... Iran + nuke is not an option in the region. Sure, it wants one to be able to strong-arm and deter any pressure. This will only empower it to the point of no return and I don't know about you - but I have a real problem with a bunch of nutters a button-push away from a serious ass-ing of the planet.

Call me zionist, call me paranoid, call isamophobe, call me whatever - but I sleep better at night knowing there are nukes pointed at Iran and not the other way around.
George Smiley
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Originally posted by emc^2
nice comeback, yet you did not answer the question - would you be just as adamant about protecting Jewish rights if the situation was reversed. I think not.

You didn't ask a question, and if you did, it was cleverly hid behind a thick layer of bull!

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I did not say that but thanks for paraphrasing me in a way that would suit your purpose. I read you loud and clear - you got babkis.

Face facts pal, you hate Arabs/Palestinians, and peddle all kinds of lies about them (hmmmmm, what does that remind me of? 1930s Germany anybody?) Yet you criticise anyone who criticises Israeli policy as being racist against Jews. First, nobody is being anti-Semitic, second, that you hate a race of people, and then criticise others because you think they are being racist makes you a hypocrite - that's is something you simply cannot deny and I'm certain every person who has contributed to this thread will agree with that.

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I would not expect you to go on the record, openly proclaiming your feelings. Who would take a bigot-demagogoue seriously then :rolleyes:

There's only one person on this thread expressing a hatred for a race of people...(ok you're only 12 years old and perhaps can't work that little one out, so I'm talking about you here, just in case you were confused)

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Please, indulge me - post 3 from say... last 10 years.

Like I said, that would only get everybody bogged down, suffice to say, there are hundreds of examples

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I absolutely need no excuses. My opinion will not change just as yours won't. We're on the opposite sides of the spectrum, as much as opposites can be. There's absolutely nothing in this world that would change that. The difference between you and I is that I want Israel to exist, you don't. I want it to be in peace, you simply want it gone. Even if your outlined plan was met, Israel withdrew, if palestinians and/or other arabs were continuing to kill Jews - you'd just simply ask for more.

Where on earth did you get the idea I "don't want Israel to exist"? :conf:

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Further, even if Israel was no more and Jews were immigrants in "Palestine" and were being persecuted and killed - I doubt we'd see much of condolences, compassion, or anything remotely resembling concern for loss of human lives on your (and your buddies') part. You'd just say - "well, what do you expect? they brought it on themselves".

Well I think that's bollocks

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Riiiight. and if you believe that, I got some real estate on Uranus to offer you.

as I said - I highly doubt it, given Hamas track record.

ibid.

Well I wouldn't expect someone who's not even started High School to understand the complexities of international relations and security affairs. I think living in America, way way way from the "action" and being constantly told by whichever extremist it is you get you info from, that Jews are under attack because the whole world hates Jews, has radicalised you in a similar way radical Islamists prey on vulnerable and impressionable youth so they believe that Muslims are under attack because the whole world hates Muslims...
emc^2
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Originally posted by George Smiley
bla bla bla, I ain't got to say, so I'll just call you a 12 year old, throw some petty and weak dismissive insults to cover up the fact that I aint got leg to sand on. boy, I hope my little club of acned mastrubators, a jolly bunch of closet antisemites will see how cool I am!


Nicely said, George!
mndeg
take israel and move it to somewhere in america, after all we do have a ton of land. or put them somewhere in africa like what was proposed in the early 1900's. there's no such thing as holy land religion is made up. teach all of their citizens that and wallah world peace :)
George Smiley
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Originally posted by emc^2
Nicely said, George!

This is why nobody will ever take you seriously (and hence, why your opinions are pretty worthless on here)
Jake Benson
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Originally posted by emc^2
If you were a person or being with unlimited pull/influence/whatever power - if you had an opportunity to propose a plan for settling the middle east conflict, what would it be? I'm not talking about the interim plan - like "this side makes concessions, that side does this" etc. Final peace solution is what I wanna hear. Who gets what, what happens to whom, etc. Asume historical portions of the situation, assume that Iran, Hamas, Hizbolla don't want state of Israel to exist. How do we appease them?


Reinstate the Persian empire which used to encompass both Palestine and Israel. This way I don't have to hear anymore bull about entitled ing Muslims or entitled ing Jews.

Or whatever happens wait until after this August. I wanna hit up some gay clubs in Tel Aviv before the Muslims take over and slaughter all the fags. Bless their hearts.
LazFX
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Originally posted by Jake Benson
Reinstate the Persian empire which used to encompass both Palestine and Israel. This way I don't have to hear anymore bull about entitled ing Muslims or entitled ing Jews.

Or whatever happens wait until after this August. I wanna hit up some gay clubs in Tel Aviv before the Muslims take over and slaughter all the fags. Bless their hearts.



approves :D
Kinezi
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Originally posted by Krypton
They have universities. But career-wise, it's hopeless. The economy is in shambles. If one wanted to fly abroad, they would have to travel to Jordan or Egypt first, as Palestine's 3 paved airports are for Israel's military only. Gaza is under a blockade, most notably marked by the refusal by Israel to allow several students with a Fulbright scholarship to travel to the USA for a collegiate education.


Well.. thanks!

emc^2
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Originally posted by George Smiley
This is why nobody will ever take you seriously (and hence, why your opinions are pretty worthless on here)


read you loud and clear - you got nuthin, none of my questions answered. you sir (along with your posse of terrorist lovers) are a 100%, genuine ANTISEMITE, as evidenced over and over and over again. Therefore, QED. I rest my case.

In case you are wondering, your opinions are worth less than a paper I just wiped my ass with (hoping it would be your face), jackass.
George Smiley
You keep on proving me right! :D

(btw, people like you have rendered the term "anti-Semitism" meaningless...)
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