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DJ vs. DJ/Producer (pg. 8)
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
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glad we agree on something... finally! lol.
well i think we both agreed you're a damn good dj before, so there's that. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I know, but the question wasn't really framed for you then, was it?
I don't understand why it has to be that way.
And I always, always love it when it gets to the point where people talk down to me for being thoughtful about something I care about. If wanting to learn from others people is wrong, then I never want to be right.
I can't be blamed if there's nothing to be taken from DOOMBOT's contributions to this forum beyond having a prime example of how not to act. |
I'm aware I didn't answer the question, I could, but it would take time and I'm not even sure of all the reasons why this is the case in dance music. It depends on a lot of things. I just wanted to offer an interesting way of looking at your initial problem re: production. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I'm aware I didn't answer the question, I could, but it would take time and I'm not even sure of all the reasons why this is the case in dance music. It depends on a lot of things. I just wanted to offer an interesting way of looking at your initial problem re: production. |
Yeah - I don't know. I guess I just don't want to - I don't get a lot of pleasure out of producing music, and even less out of producing stuff I'd really ever play (if I do anything I like to work on downtempo and/or ambient stuff).
So basically I think the industry is racist against the race of people who aren't inclined to produce. Kind of like how 60% of all people who drown in America are African American. :p |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I'm aware I didn't answer the question, I could, but it would take time and I'm not even sure of all the reasons why this is the case in dance music. |
Just this I think..
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
and as consequence get good DJing gigs |
yeah but what qualifies a gig being "good". as i mentioned before i'm perfectly content with the small gigs i get around town, and have no aspirations of banging out tunes in front of large swarms of people. i get nice feedback from my friends. cute girls in summer dresses dance the night away. i pack it up 4 hrs later and go home satisfied.
are you saying that this, somehow, is inferior to playing large gigs in clubs? |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
Just this I think..
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It's really as simple as that. We didn't need a retarded thread to figure it out either. If he doesn't want wacky responses from people then maybe he shouldn't make such threads. |
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| Zombie0729 |
interesting arguments in here. i think in the big picture producers are adding something tangible back into the scene/music. Genre's die when new people stop trying to produce it.
however just because you don't write doesn't mean you can't add just as much back. i know for a fact there are a few djs in boston(ali ajami?) that never produced until much later and were so important to the scene. they did 1 or 2 shows a week but the consistency of music and atmosphere was adding just as much to scene as a production.
plus producers need DJ's who don't produce and DJ's need producers who can't promote correctly. i think they are a great compliment to each other. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0729
plus producers need DJ's who don't produce and DJ's need producers who can't promote correctly. i think they are a great compliment to each other. |
This is, I think, a great point to be made. Do you think this dichotomy is still as prevalent as it used to be, or that it kind of begins to die with the trend of the producer/dj?
I guess that was one thing I always found neat back in the day - producers who clearly worked very closely with certain DJ's, and it sounded like they basically both influenced each other. Very cool kind of relationship. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by denys envy
yeah but what qualifies a gig being "good". as i mentioned before i'm perfectly content with the small gigs i get around town, and have no aspirations of banging out tunes in front of large swarms of people. i get nice feedback from my friends. cute girls in summer dresses dance the night away. i pack it up 4 hrs later and go home satisfied.
are you saying that this, somehow, is inferior to playing large gigs in clubs? |
I dunno why you surmised that my idea of good gigs = banging out tunes in front of large swarms of people or even large gigs in clubs. :wtf:
My idea of a good gig is just being able to play what I want or feel like to people who want or are willing to hear it in any interesting environment with good sound.
I would really like to be able to get paid to travel and play in exotic locations.
I actually much prefer smaller gigs. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I would really like to be able to get paid to travel and play in exotic locations.
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You're more than welcome at Ravens in Appleton. :gsmile:
Ask Bas, he's played there. :stongue: |
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I would really like to be able to get paid to travel and play in exotic locations. |
ahh. good point.
i guess it would be fun to go down to brazil or something, i heard the scene there is WILD. and the ladies :crazy: ! |
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