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UWM
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Originally posted by trancebrat
Are you that lazy that you can't research on your own like I did?



Burden of proof is on the one making the accusations.
trancebrat
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Originally posted by UWM
Burden of proof is on the one making the accusations.


What exactly did I accuse Obama of? Seems to me I asked a question and so far none of you have had an answer. Since all of you know him so well and trust him so much why can't you answer a simple question?
Ian
Hi Amber :D

move to uk or canada :p
trancebrat
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Originally posted by Ian
Hi Amber :D

move to uk or canada :p



Hi Ian

I hear some people in the UK are referring to Obama as America's version of Blair.
trancebrat
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Originally posted by Yohan
funniest post

hi amber!


Hi Yohan :)
Ian
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Originally posted by trancebrat
Hi Ian

I hear some people in the UK are referring to Obama as America's version of Blair.


not really. It's just a huge party here that McCain didn't get in because the country on the whole doesn't want our people to be involved in the conflict in iraq. Obama is seen as someone who may be able to bring enough change to stop some of the things our people hate about the Bush era.
Fledz
Hi Amber

Join the Schematics Movement :gsmile:
trancebrat
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Originally posted by Ian
not really. It's just a huge party here that McCain didn't get in because the country on the whole doesn't want our people to be involved in the conflict in iraq. Obama is seen as someone who may be able to bring enough change to stop some of the things our people hate about the Bush era.


I've heard to the contrary. Too bad people thought the only people running for office were Obama and McCain.
Ian
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Originally posted by trancebrat
I've heard to the contrary. Too bad people thought the only people running for office were Obama and McCain.


well in the end it was pretty much one or the other. You guys were the ones who had the chance to choose a nominee and back them and then vote for one or the other in the end (I think you had more choice but none which were in with a chance i believe?)
trancebrat
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Originally posted by Ian
well in the end it was pretty much one or the other. You guys were the ones who had the chance to choose a nominee and back them and then vote for one or the other in the end (I think you had more choice but none which were in with a chance i believe?)



We had plenty more than just the two. I think people were just too ignorant to know that. I'm convinced of that. They probably showed up at the voting precincts and were stunned to find a list of names to choose from. So many people weren't even registered to vote until the last minute. When we were narrowing our choices down none of them seemed to give enough of a damn to bother.

There was so much voter fraud going on in our country that it's almost laughable. In 2012 I plan on registering to vote as Winnie the Pooh.

Halcyon+On+On
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Originally posted by trancebrat
What exactly did I accuse Obama of? Seems to me I asked a question and so far none of you have had an answer. Since all of you know him so well and trust him so much why can't you answer a simple question?


Let's see...

So far, you've come up with unsourced claims that Obama is going to turn the US into a Gulag ran by his secret Executive civilian task force. A speech he gave back in July indicates that he has national security objectives he would like accomplished by a civilian force, not a military one. Perhaps these objectives consist of cleaning up roadsides or ensuring projects such as habitat for humanity have as many helping hands as possible. Perhaps Obama would like to reclaim the term 'national security' by re-associating it with grassroots programs rather than the private security, citizen-tabs fascism that the soon-to-be-previous administration has imprinted upon us as 'national security'. Who knows? Speculation goes both way. And I think I have just as much evidence for my inclinations as you do at this point.

You've also accused Obama of voter fraud, apparently. Unless you meant that there was fraud on both sides or something? Again, I don't see any evidence behind your accusations... yet you're still insistent that there's something wrong here.

Further, you've accused not only everyone who has voted for Obama, but everyone who voted at all, of being ignorant. That's obviously an opinion, so there is little burden of evidence, but what, pray tell, has lead you to believe this? Because your favourite independent party of choice did not get elected? Most people who I know who voted are completely aware that there are several parties running during each and every election. Through radically disagreeable policy or piss-poor advertising though, they aren't elected. There are numerous reasons why we are locked into a bi-party government, but I doubt mere voter ignorance is a prevalent one, nor should voters even be blamed - where are the independent parties in getting the word out? Oh yeah, people are just too dumb to listen to what's best for them, hurr hurr.
Ian
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Originally posted by trancebrat
We had plenty more than just the two. I think people were just too ignorant to know that. I'm convinced of that. They probably showed up at the voting precincts and were stunned to find a list of names to choose from. So many people weren't even registered to vote until the last minute. When we were narrowing our choices down none of them seemed to give enough of a damn to bother.

There was so much voter fraud going on in our country that it's almost laughable. In 2012 I plan on registering to vote as Winnie the Pooh.


meh. move!
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