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Hate Crimes? (pg. 2)
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
I don't think he's arguing the definition of hate crime... he's arguing the credibility or significance of such a label. |
read the edit. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
I watched this thing on the news yesterday about two lesbians that got beat up at a school while picking their kid up.
right off the bat, i think the fact that this guy beat up two lesbians is horrible but....
Why is it that when someone beats up two lesbians because they hate lesbians its called a hate crime (with stiffer penalties) but when i walk into a bar and beat the out of some guy its only assault?
WTF? when you kick the crap out of someone, you obviously hate them? so why does it make a difference that you hate them because they are a douche, or a lesbian, or a scientologist?
Assault is assault... this whole hate crime designation is just plain stupid imo..... |
I dont think the law is so black and white. If i got into a fight with someone, we would both end up with assault charges i imagine.
But if a bunch of dudes come and fight me for no reason what so ever it wiould prob be a hte crime. |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
the dude you cited above...say he beat up two lesbians, but didn'tknow they were lesbians. that's just assault to me.
other hand: the dude KNEW they were lesbians and beat them up simple because of that.
its all about motive/pre-emitveness. |
This sounds about right. I'm not sure if JUST assault counts, the only law I studied was contract and real estate law :p
And when I say protected class I mean protected by the Constitution, i.e. religion, race, sex, ethnicity, sexual preference, age, disability...not necessarily minority. |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
I dont think the law is so black and white. If i got into a fight with someone, we would both end up with assault charges i imagine.
But if a bunch of dudes come and fight me for no reason what so ever it wiould prob be a hte crime. |
what if they were the same race as you?
still a hate crime? |
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| nchs09 |
| I dont know.... it could be, maybe because of religion or something. |
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| DJ Mikey Mike |
| I rang the West Midlands police the other day after I heard they were looking for a racist attacker. Apparently it wasn't a job advertisement though :( |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I rang the West Midlands police the other day after I heard they were looking for a racist attacker. Apparently it wasn't a job advertisement though :( |
LOL |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
I dont think the law is so black and white. |
hurr hurr hurr |
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| UmmiE |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
by protected you mean minority , right?
i think it should only be called a hate crime if there's some kind of violence/anguish towards the actual person's background.
example:
the dude you cited above...say he beat up two lesbians, but didn'tknow they were lesbians. that's just assault to me.
other hand: the dude KNEW they were lesbians and beat them up simple because of that.
its all about motive/pre-emitveness. |
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| netroM |
wait... |
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| denys envy |
| quote: | | And when one little panda puts his furry little willy in another panda's ear, that makes me a very sadddddd panda! |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I rang the West Midlands police the other day after I heard they were looking for a racist attacker. Apparently it wasn't a job advertisement though :( |
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