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yankeeBaby
I definitely dont think anyone can tell another person how rigorous their program is unless they have done it themselves (correct me if I am wrong, jerz, but this is what I am reading from your posts??). One would not THINK nursing is tough, but I started off in physical therapy and had to take the same core program as a nurse the first two years. I got excellent grades, but not without a lot of work and dedication to the school work and the clinicals.

When I switched majors and decided to be a therapist, I assumed it would be easier, but I was WRONG. (assumption is a killer!). I took a 3 year graduate program in 2 years, worked 30 hours a week, did a 30-hour a week internship, had clinicals, mandatory seminars, and this is on top of the regular school work(22 credits a SEMESTER, not including in-school mandatory practice with patients 10 hours a week on top of my internship with patients), AND my thesis the final year (which just about killed me inside). The thesis ALONE kepy my sleep schedule to a 3-4 hour night (jerz I am sure you know the feeling, being in law and stuck in the library until absurd hours).

The point is, is that we all work hard, and we ALL find one thing more demanding than another (for instance, I would kill myself if I was doing a doctorate in, like, math, or some related math-based-subject). Its just unfair to assume something that one has never been through. And while I see the point that law and med school is extremely rigorous (was there ever any doubt?), it shows a ridiculous sense of self-importance when it "appears" that you look down on others for their chosen field. again, I may be reading it wrong, but it does seem that some of the posts from a couple people are going in that direction.
junkproject
Professional bum, Student, once in awhile get get gigs for website design.( been slow in the web design department hard to get client's, but this month is good done with one client and he lined up 2-3 more for me.
jerZ07002
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Originally posted by yankeeBaby
I definitely dont think anyone can tell another person how rigorous their program is unless they have done it themselves (correct me if I am wrong, jerz, but this is what I am reading from your posts??). One would not THINK nursing is tough, but I started off in physical therapy and had to take the same core program as a nurse the first two years. I got excellent grades, but not without a lot of work and dedication to the school work and the clinicals.

When I switched majors and decided to be a therapist, I assumed it would be easier, but I was WRONG. (assumption is a killer!). I took a 3 year graduate program in 2 years, worked 30 hours a week, did a 30-hour a week internship, had clinicals, mandatory seminars, and this is on top of the regular school work(22 credits a SEMESTER, not including in-school mandatory practice with patients 10 hours a week on top of my internship with patients), AND my thesis the final year (which just about killed me inside). The thesis ALONE kepy my sleep schedule to a 3-4 hour night (jerz I am sure you know the feeling, being in law and stuck in the library until absurd hours).

The point is, is that we all work hard, and we ALL find one thing more demanding than another (for instance, I would kill myself if I was doing a doctorate in, like, math, or some related math-based-subject). Its just unfair to assume something that one has never been through. And while I see the point that law and med school is extremely rigorous (was there ever any doubt?), it shows a ridiculous sense of self-importance when it "appears" that you look down on others for their chosen field. again, I may be reading it wrong, but it does seem that some of the posts from a couple people are going in that direction.


fair enough, although i would like to point out that a program isn't rigorous because of your non-mandatory employment, extra curricular activites, or similar tasks. Measuring the rigors of an educational curriculum should be more objective than subjective (although i guess you can never entirely eliminate the subjective portion of the analysis considering it's all a matter of perspective at the end of the day).

In any event, the statement wasn't necessarily about nursing, it was a statement about programs with textbooks full of pictures (my undergraduate program being one of them - quantitative finance). Like I said before, i don't think my program was too rigorous even though it was laden with complex math (try figuring out derivative pricing models - ouch!). anyway, most of that is me hating right now because i'm sitting in a library reading dense european legal bull (with no pictures). btw....europeans (including brits [i'll limit that to british lawyers]) have terrible english writing skills.
Elyyse
See guys, look at what school is doing to us, thank GOD we have trance to see us through!

(I'm really dead serious - The only way I can pull myself to sit in one spot for 8 hours or more is because I am sure to be armed with the latest sets & mixes... Literally, thats pretty much my motivation... 'at least i have the latest asot, gdjb...' )

so yankeebabe (Danielle? Right, no! sorry! haha)... - what kind of therapist are you? Very interesting... I ust went through my psychiatric rotation this year, It was alright but not my favorite area though, wicked interesting though for sure.
jerZ07002
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Originally posted by Elyyse


so yankeebabe (Danielle? Right, no! sorry! haha)


kelly....foo :)
Elyyse
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
kelly....foo :)


OOhhh !!! KELLY :) Okay! I knew it, thank u! & sorry! lol
Stef
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Originally posted by verndogs
good luck!



I can't believe I went through that 10 years ago :wtf:


Thanks a lot :D

I'm just really stressing out about this, because i have no community service and stuff of that nature.
Steve-Neil
I was meant to Swear In last week but My recruiter ed up some of the paperwork and I couldn't do it. Anyway, He's picking Me up late tonight and I'll be doing it tomorrow in Boston. Hopefully (all going according to plan) I'll be in the U.S Army by this time tomorrow..
Elyyse
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Originally posted by Steve-Neil
I was meant to Swear In last week but My recruiter ed up some of the paperwork and I couldn't do it. Anyway, He's picking Me up late tonight and I'll be doing it tomorrow in Boston. Hopefully (all going according to plan) I'll be in the U.S Army by this time tomorrow..


wow good for you, congrats!
yankeeBaby
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
kelly....foo :)


:stongue:



as per your post: I somewhat agree that "employment" is non-mandatory, but MOST people do have to work to support themselves, and thus adding to the stress/lack of proper sleep added to being in school/grad school. The rest of my list WAS mandatory, so while I was doing school-related things for 65+hours a week (in grad school, minus homework/papers/etc), I also worked 30 hours a week, which needs to be included in my opinion, because it ups my load from 60 to 90 hours a week. But trust me, if I had enough money to live in manhattan, pay Fordham graduate tuition, and NOT work, well, that would be lovely, but is not the case ;)


Elysse: I work at an alternative school for people 18-23 whom have left high school do to prison, juvy, mental health facilities, truancy, whatever the case may be. Some real FUN people. ;) heheh I love it though!
I am returning to school in a couple years (hopefully) for my doctorate to be a sex therapist, but I NEED a break because I have literally been in school my whole life and need some income! hehe :) I *DO* currently concentrate in sexuality, and run workshops for sex offenders, prostitutes, victims of sexual acts, addicts, relationship groups (done some healthy relationship programs for drug addicts)......as well as run sexual health programs, etc....The agency I work for is AMAZING and I will def stay here for a bit before I return to school :)

yankeeBaby
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Originally posted by Steve-Neil
I was meant to Swear In last week but My recruiter ed up some of the paperwork and I couldn't do it. Anyway, He's picking Me up late tonight and I'll be doing it tomorrow in Boston. Hopefully (all going according to plan) I'll be in the U.S Army by this time tomorrow..


hahah I feel 100% safer now, knowing that you are in our army. :stongue: :nervous:
Elyyse
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Originally posted by yankeeBaby
:stongue:



as per your post: I somewhat agree that "employment" is non-mandatory, but MOST people do have to work to support themselves, and thus adding to the stress/lack of proper sleep added to being in school/grad school. The rest of my list WAS mandatory, so while I was doing school-related things for 65+hours a week (in grad school, minus homework/papers/etc), I also worked 30 hours a week, which needs to be included in my opinion, because it ups my load from 60 to 90 hours a week. But trust me, if I had enough money to live in manhattan, pay Fordham graduate tuition, and NOT work, well, that would be lovely, but is not the case ;)


Elysse: I work at an alternative school for people 18-23 whom have left high school do to prison, juvy, mental health facilities, truancy, whatever the case may be. Some real FUN people. ;) heheh I love it though!
I am returning to school in a couple years (hopefully) for my doctorate to be a sex therapist, but I NEED a break because I have literally been in school my whole life and need some income! hehe :) I *DO* currently concentrate in sexuality, and run workshops for sex offenders, prostitutes, victims of sexual acts, addicts, relationship groups (done some healthy relationship programs for drug addicts)......as well as run sexual health programs, etc....The agency I work for is AMAZING and I will def stay here for a bit before I return to school :)


oh my gosh that is the most INTERESTING occupation in the world!!! Wow- good for you, all that hard work paid off, insane!!
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