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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
perhaps you will learn this when you get one, but work experience is most relevant and the TOP qualification in %99 of the jobs in this world. |
are you borrowing your ad hominem attacks from tasd now? or are they all coming from the same computer? you might want to check your analogy there slick because the president of the united states isn't hired like "99% of the jobs in this world". when you're the president of the united states, you don't need to be an expert in anything you're in charge of. you need good leadership qualities and that's it. george bush had a ton of "experience" governing everything from oil companies to baseball teams to state governments to the united states. lots and lots of "experience" there... would you hire him for the job again? what he lacked was good leadership qualities (such as temperament) and that's why he failed. if you ever make it to the level of hiring manager, maybe you'll learn that results matter more than experience for the good jobs. i'm sure temperament would be in there too if you had 9 months to campaign for a position like politicians do. |
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| R!CH |
| since argument by analogy is all the rave, let me put it to you like this... josh you support and identify with the music of j00f right? if someone asked you who your favorite dj is you could answer j00f. but what if in the last 8 years j00f started playing happy hardcore and every time you went to hear him play that's all you heard. if someone asked you what kind of music you liked then, would you still identify with j00f or would you rather specify you like prog and psy trance? see j00f is a brand much like the gop is a brand. your taste in music is like your political ideology. get it? |
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| Direct |
| Clearly the problem starts with those of you who voted for president Brock Osama in the first place. |
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| Mecca82 |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
but what if in the last 8 years j00f started playing happy hardcore and every time you went to hear him play that's all you heard. |
LOL i hope u're joking R!CH this line gives me nightmares, i hope he will never do that! |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Direct
Clearly the problem starts with those of you who voted for president Brock Osama in the first place. |
YOU FORGOT HUSSEIN! HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN!!! HE'S GOING TO HIJACK WHITE HOUSE AND CRASH IT INTO ISRAEL!!! NEVER FORGET! |
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| djjoshuaallen |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
are you borrowing your ad hominem attacks from tasd now? or are they all coming from the same computer? you might want to check your analogy there slick because the president of the united states isn't hired like "99% of the jobs in this world". when you're the president of the united states, you don't need to be an expert in anything you're in charge of. you need good leadership qualities and that's it. george bush had a ton of "experience" governing everything from oil companies to baseball teams to state governments to the united states. lots and lots of "experience" there... would you hire him for the job again? what he lacked was good leadership qualities (such as temperament) and that's why he failed. if you ever make it to the level of hiring manager, maybe you'll learn that results matter more than experience for the good jobs. i'm sure temperament would be in there too if you had 9 months to campaign for a position like politicians do. |
Its really sad that every defense of Obama you take is directed at the Bush presidency, as if at some point I told you I support Bush or thought he did a good job as president. Obama has nothing to do with Bush. I dont see your connection between the two.
As far as JOOF, it may be a good analogy had I told you that I vote for any republican candidate on the basis of his party identification. But I dont, as I mentioned before that I voted for Gore and Nadar. So again, your analogy has no relevance. |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
Its really sad that every defense of Obama you take is directed at the Bush presidency, as if at some point I told you I support Bush or thought he did a good job as president. Obama has nothing to do with Bush. I dont see your connection between the two.
As far as JOOF, it may be a good analogy had I told you that I vote for any republican candidate on the basis of his party identification. But I dont, as I mentioned before that I voted for Gore and Nadar. So again, your analogy has no relevance. |
you tried to argue that "experience" is the key to a good presidency (as if obama's lack of executive "experience" will determine his success or failure). bush is the best example of how executive "experience" means . try not to get caught up on the "bush" part too much. there's actually validity to what i say if you can get past "bush". since you have such difficulty with semantics, i'll just concede the analogy. |
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| djjoshuaallen |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
you tried to argue that "experience" is the key to a good presidency. bush is the best example of how executive "experience" means . try not to get caught up on the "bush" part too much. there's actually validity to what i say if you can get past "bush". |
What I was saying is that relevant experience is the top qualification for any job, and the american president should not be the exception. Obama is a great leader, do you want him coaching the Golden State Warriors or your Oakland Raiders?
I think Coach K at Duke and Pete Carrol at USC are GREAT leaders, But I sure as hell dont want them running the free world.
I would like the president to have relevant experience as far as diplomatic relations, economic strategies, war strategy, and most importantly DECISION MAKING! We dont know what kind of decisions he makes without an extensive voting record!!
Obama's leadership thus far has come solely in the form of speeches and charisma. Who or what has he led? |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by T.A.S.D.
The fact that you would inject or assert 'race' (all Libtards are undeniably racist) into this thread absolutely discredits you even more past the bottom rungs of thought and ideology you were already dwelling in called Libtardism . Never and not once was this election and now current administration about race from the right side of things. Only leftards tried to use it to gain corrupt favor. It's Obama's far left, radical ideas he wants to commit into policy is what we're criticizing, not that he's half white. If color is what you mean, then it's because he's green, and not because he's half white. You are shamed. But it's what I would've expected from you and your lot like R!ch, thrax and starboy. |
You really are a "special case". By the way he's half black, did you ever think of that? No. and your omission of that fact is exactly why I brought it up in the first place - your politics stink of the far right, neofacist (insert racist) bull that is the outdated backbone of the floundering old school republican guard.
You want really want to try and say "liberals" are inherently racist? Erm, genius, you can't have it both ways.
The only reason Obama did not win by more of a margin was race, and had you watched anything other than Fox News or O'rielly you might have realised that (oh...and that you were on the losing side).
The outging president was a disaster of undisputable proportions, McCain was "a nutter" (in the words of NRA lead spokesman) and Palin (well we don't need to revisit that one do we), wher as Obabma won on nearly every front from the economy, to education, to healthcare, etc. so the only reason he didn't win by far more was race.
Starboy is exactly right. McCain and the GOP got owned from day one bu Obama apart from that brief period when Mrs crazy got involved but at least everyone figured out she was more scary than the 200 year old.
Face it. Republican politics is lost in it's current state. and rich is exactly right with his analogy of labeling yourself to a party you no longer have anything in common with.
Also, for those of you trying to state that Obama has done nothing:
Again, lets recap:
Missiles base for Russia (in Poland) scrapped becuase Obama canceled pointless missile defense system planned by bush. Welcomed by Putin and he acknowledged a "thawing in the current cold reltions between Russia and the USA"
Obama has already had more meetings with the GOP house in his 8 days than bush did in 8 years. FACT.
Obama has reversed 23 laws detremental to the environment pushed through by Bush without congress approval.
Obama has appeared on Arabic TV to push forward the middle-eastern peace process, something Bush never thought of, even though he promised to "bring peace and democracy to the Middle east"
Singed the order to Close Guantanamo (as promised).
Ordered the cessation of all torturing of supects (as it contravenes international law and has only contributed to increase in terrorism).
I can keep going on but basically you have no reason to be scared (even tough a recent study by scientists at Harvard showed that people with right wing beliefs and values are 3 times more easily scared that those with liberal beliefs).
In the words of Barrack Hussein Obama: I won.
Deal with it and be happy that you have someone that knows what they are doing or is at least far more intelligent than the last guy. Be happy about their mulicultural heritage and maybe the fact they had traveled the world before taking the highest office of power.
The democratic party aren't the saving light and neither is Obama as one man, but at least it's a start and they're lightyears better than the current alternative. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
What I was saying is that relevant experience is the top qualification for any job, and the american president should not be the exception. Obama is a great leader, do you want him coaching the Golden State Warriors or your Oakland Raiders?
I think Coach K at Duke and Pete Carrol at USC are GREAT leaders, But I sure as hell dont want them running the free world.
I would like the president to have relevant experience as far as diplomatic relations, economic strategies, war strategy, and most importantly DECISION MAKING! We dont know what kind of decisions he makes without an extensive voting record!!
Obama's leadership thus far has come solely in the form of speeches and charisma. Who or what has he led? |
As a mixed race, single parent child, he got a scholarship to Harvard, Became the predident of the Harvard student body, he was then elected president of the Harvard Law Review , the first African American to attain that position in the journal’s then 103-year-old history.
Do you have any idea what it takes to do that as a "black" man, at the best uiversity in the world? At that's just his early education.
The gets in to the senate and runs a campaign that destroys the two most powerful machines in american politics: The republican party and the Clintons.
Gimme a break. He's got more decision making skills than Bush had after 8 years in the office. It's about temperament and experience, and he's got both. |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| quote: | Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
What I was saying is that relevant experience is the top qualification for any job, and the american president should not be the exception. Obama is a great leader, do you want him coaching the Golden State Warriors or your Oakland Raiders?
I think Coach K at Duke and Pete Carrol at USC are GREAT leaders, But I sure as hell dont want them running the free world.
I would like the president to have relevant experience as far as diplomatic relations, economic strategies, war strategy, and most importantly DECISION MAKING! We dont know what kind of decisions he makes without an extensive voting record!!
Obama's leadership thus far has come solely in the form of speeches and charisma. Who or what has he led? |
GOOO RAIDERS AND WARRIORS!!! |
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| djjoshuaallen |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Gimme a break. He's got more decision making skills than Bush had after 8 years in the office. It's about temperament and experience, and he's got both. |
Another defense of Obama refrenced to Bush. I dont get it. You try to make Obama look good by comparing him to a complete fail. Is that the standard of our presidency these days?
And no, he doesnt have experience in the politcal world. He has a term in the Senate of which he hardly even voted, because he was busy with a campaign. Not that I am sold that Obama will fail, but your reference to his scholarly accomplishments does not neccessarily cement his politcal success. A charismatic lawyer does not always equal a good president.
And to be fair, at least myself, was refering to Obama not doing anything in terms of Politics PRIOR to his election. I agree he has been busy since Jan 20th. and I think he is doing a great job thus far.
However, I would refrain from praise for acts like closing Gitmo. He has no plan for any of the detainees, or what do with the whole camp. Its just a symbolic act. The camp isnt going anywhere anytime soon.
I applaud him for going on arab t.v. but I assure you the middle east still hates the jews, and they hate us just as much for backing them up and selling them weapons. |
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