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Are New York City Officers getting more retarded lately? (pg. 5)
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| BiG MiKE |
| quote: | Originally posted by sheila-neil
That's what they count on when they write tickets that are unfair!
Your point earlier about vague pictures and descriptions is well taken, though. Mike you need a wide shot that can accurately prove where in the city that sign is. |
Any more and I'm in the street with on going traffic. And then when I'm further away, it's harder to see the sign. |
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| eyebegod |
| quote: | Originally posted by BiG MiKE
Any more and I'm in the street with on going traffic. And then when I'm further away, it's harder to see the sign. |
Take a wide picture from far away then a closer one of the sign... im sure that will work |
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| BiG MiKE |
| quote: | Originally posted by eyebegod
Take a wide picture from far away then a closer one of the sign... im sure that will work |
Yea, well if I'm found guilty the first time, I'll go back to the city to take the picture. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by sheila-neil
That's what they count on when they write tickets that are unfair! |
i agree - that's the game, i'm just not willing to play. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by BiG MiKE
Yea, well if I'm found guilty the first time, I'll go back to the city to take the picture. |
in appeals the chances of winning are substantially reduced. in many cases you can't introduce new evidence. you need to play all your cards at the beginning. Also, I'm not sure of the amount, but it usually costs money to appeal the decision of a lower court. |
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| BiG MiKE |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
I'm not sure of the amount, but it usually costs money to appeal the decision of a lower court. |
You have to pay the original fine in order to get a chance to appeal. If you win, it's returned back to you. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by BiG MiKE
You have to pay the original fine in order to get a chance to appeal. If you win, it's returned back to you. |
I just did a little reading on the issue; it appears traffic violations are adjudicated by an ALJ (administrative law judge), and appeals go to a hearing board. That is, your case isn't being adjudicated by the judicial branch. The process is strictly an executive branch function. As a result, the procedures are a little different than in court, and the ALJ's tend to be a little more deferential towards the officers than towards you.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/pa...ts_appeal.shtml
This little tid-bit from the NYC DOT site may be of interest to you:
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Signs
New York City Traffic Rules state that one sign per block is sufficient. Please check the entire block and read all signs carefully before you park.
If there is more than one sign posted for the same area, the more restrictive one is the one in effect. If a sign is missing on a block, the remaining posted regulations are the ones that are in effect.
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I think the drafter mistakenly substituted "regulations" for "signs" in the last sentence. It looks like the 'no parking anytime' sign was 'in effect.' lo siento.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/fa...fic.shtml#signs |
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| BiG MiKE |
| ^ I was to the left of the No parking anytime sign. In that case, the arrow pointing to the right is irrelevant. They shouldn't make any signs with arrows because it doesn't appear to matter which side of the sign you park on :p |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by BiG MiKE
^ I was to the left of the No parking anytime sign. In that case, the arrow pointing to the right is irrelevant. They shouldn't make any signs with arrows because it doesn't appear to matter which side of the sign you park on :p |
yo no se. the language i quoted isn't entirely clear anyway, but i just wanted to point that out for you. just trying to help you out. |
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| BiG MiKE |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
yo no se. the language i quoted isn't entirely clear anyway, but i just wanted to point that out for you. just trying to help you out. |
Yup, thank you so much for this information. Maybe in the end I should take the train to and from. I just don't want to spend alot on transportation. |
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
I just did a little reading on the issue; it appears traffic violations are adjudicated by an ALJ (administrative law judge), and appeals go to a hearing board. That is, your case isn't being adjudicated by the judicial branch. The process is strictly an executive branch function. As a result, the procedures are a little different than in court, and the ALJ's tend to be a little more deferential towards the officers than towards you.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/pa...ts_appeal.shtml
This little tid-bit from the NYC DOT site may be of interest to you:
I think the drafter mistakenly substituted "regulations" for "signs" in the last sentence. It looks like the 'no parking anytime' sign was 'in effect.' lo siento.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/fa...fic.shtml#signs |
i've dealt with the adjudicators before -- it was annoying waiting for two hours to get my ticket case heard. you basically sit before a guy, swear in, and your conversation with the person is recorded. s/he has an image of your ticket on a huge screen and then you discuss. |
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