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Who doesn't get or want to get twitter? (pg. 7)
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| Porky |
| can u get twitter streams on your blackberry? |
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| Porky |
| quote: | | Originally posted by MikeyN |
wow, great post. :) |
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| DigiNut |
My mind boggles at the sheer volume of marketing buzzwords being bandied about here.
Brands? Value-add? Real-time? Shoot me.
Even the buzz-phrase "social network" is totally wrong for Twitter. Twitter isn't a social network, it's a mammoth repository of user-created headlines with a few Web 2.0ey features thrown in to make it more palatable to Joe the Plumber. It's definitely not a direct-marketing tool outside the fevered imaginations of wide-eyed green MBAs and their eager students.
I'll say it again: the actual "value" of Twitter is in search and more importantly aggregation. Everything else that Twitter does has already been done before, with RSS, which is a lot more versatile. But RSS is/was based on the decentralized web; slap on a content limit, put it all in one place, and get everybody using it, and you open up possibilities far beyond what a plain old RSS aggregator can do.
I'm not saying people shouldn't use Twitter to get updates from people they're interested in, or that there's anything wrong with posting your own updates for people who are interested in you. Please, continue doing so. Just don't talk about it like it's revolutionary or even new, because that particular aspect of the system is absolutely not.
P.S. I know it probably sounds like I'm picking on one or two posts here, but it's actually the whole collection of 'em; the newest ones just put me over the top. |
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| Porky |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Just don't talk about it like it's revolutionary or even new, because that particular aspect of the system is absolutely not.
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Any time you simplify existing technologies for the masses, as twitter has, it's revolutionary. Look at Apple. MP3 players existed for years before the iPod. The simplicity of the ipod however, is credited for revolutionizing digital media players. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Porky
Any time you simplify existing technologies for the masses, as twitter has, it's revolutionary. Look at Apple. MP3 players existed for years before the iPod. The simplicity of the ipod however, is credited for revolutionizing digital media players. |
Interesting point...I hadn't thought about it like that. |
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| El K Dee |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
My mind boggles at the sheer volume of marketing buzzwords being bandied about here.
Brands? Value-add? Real-time? Shoot me. |
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue:
Funny how twitter doesn't even come close to a priority in marketing efforts even by big brands. Its the media promoting it by emphasizing on a few small efforts on the market RESEARCH end just for consumer behaviour.
| quote: | Originally posted by Porky
Any time you simplify existing technologies for the masses, as twitter has, it's revolutionary. Look at Apple. MP3 players existed for years before the iPod. The simplicity of the ipod however, is credited for revolutionizing digital media players. |
lol...I had the Diamond Rio in 98...one of the first ones out there... |
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| Porky |
| quote: | Originally posted by El K Dee
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue:
lol...I had the Diamond Rio in 98...one of the first ones out there... |
lol.. i remember those. Liam how much memory did your Rio have? |
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| El K Dee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Porky
lol.. i remember those. Liam how much memory did your Rio have? |
32MB...it was expandable with smart media but hell..those cards were expensive then..haha
funny how the latest mp3 players have a similar control surface (the circular pad with the transport buttons) |
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| Porky |
| quote: | Originally posted by El K Dee
32MB... |
wow you can probably fit 3 songs on that.. hardcore! |
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| El K Dee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Porky
wow you can probably fit 3 songs on that.. hardcore! |
downrate to 96kbps biatch...6 SONGS!!! |
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| Skipper |
For all of those who think I am paranoid about employers finding out you've posted on the web:
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Twitter at work – just don't be a twit
Twitter trend is catching on, but beware of over-tweeting at the office
From Monday's Globe and Mail
March 23, 2009 at 2:10 AM EDT
Warning all Twittering job hunters and employees: Don't become the next Cisco Fatty.
Just last Tuesday, “theconnor,” a Twitter alias for a masters student in California, was offered a job at the high-tech giant. Itching to share her news, she sent out a “tweet”:
“Cisco just offered me a job! Now I have to weigh the utility of a fatty paycheck against the daily commute to San Jose and hating the work.”
In less than an hour, she received this reply: “ Who is the hiring manager. I'm sure they would love to know that you will hate the work. We here at Cisco are versed in the web.”
Word has it the Cisco Fatty never got that padded paycheque, but her story has quickly become a cautionary tale in the so-called Twitterverse.
Just as ill-conceived Facebook status updates and cringe-worthy reply-all e-mails plague the workplace, Twitter is becoming the new office gaffe trap. For proof, look no further than recent news headlines.
Last Sunday, Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva sent a tweet from his locker room at halftime that was followed up by a wrist slap from coach Scott Skiles, who said he thought it made the player and the team appear unfocused.
“There's something going on in virtual wonderland called Twitter-ing,” Alberta Speaker of the House Ken Kowalski said recently when he discovered MLAs were twittering during Question Period. Similar issues have come up in the U.S. Congress.
As with many new technologies, rookies are still feeling it out and blunders are bound to happen.
While there are many benefits to Twitter – a stream-of-consciousness style of communication and a handy and hip social network – it has proven to bite back and threaten everything from employee attention spans to competitive practices to an afternoon playing hooky, experts say.
“It's both discomforting for the companies from a messaging perspective, and individuals are not necessarily using it in the best way possible,” says Jen Evans, founder and chief strategist of Sequentia Environics, which helps companies connect with clients using technology.
Twitter is like a giant chat room – a place where you send out “tweets” limited to 140 characters about what's on your mind. Anyone can see them unless you've affixed privacy settings, and you can “follow” and “be followed.”
The tweets, even if deleted from your page, are easily found on Google and people can subscribe to receive tweets via news alerts – exactly how the Cisco Fatty comment was found.
The microblogging site is not just an employee distraction but boosts the chance of company leaks, says John Challenger, CEO of Chicago workplace consulting firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas.
“There might be Twitter fanatics who maybe are putting aside their work, but generally it's no different from cellphone, e-mail and Facebook,” he says. “But I would say companies are more concerned … [about being the] first to announce a particular piece of information, an event, a new development. Twitter is letting that information get out of control.”
There are upsides, too. It can be a great sphere for employees to converse and ease their stress in a tense working environment, he adds.
“Having outlets when we can laugh at what one of our friends said is not all bad. There are people who really like Twittering because it's really quick chatting.
There's an antidote quality to relieving the stress that it offers.”
Twittering about your personal life can help you professionally, too, Ms. Evans says. Your tweet about visiting Cape Cod for the weekend might spark small talk that can land your next business deal or nurture a budding workplace friendship.
But there's a fine line between working contacts and just not working, she says.
“It's a great way to outreach, but you need to walk that line very carefully, because the more you personally tweet, the more it seems like all you do is twitter and it's not relevant to your work and it seems like you're goofing off half the time.”
Twitter and other social media can blur the line between public and private lives and highlight how younger and older generations value privacy differently, says Marc-David Seidel, an associate professor of management at the University of British Columbia's Sauder School of Business who researches how social media are used in the workplace.
The stream-of-consciousness style can also spell trouble by encouraging impulsive spew-offs, he says.
“When people experience something negative, before they formally interact with others about it they tend to think about it. Whereas if you're able to instantly put it out there to however many hundreds of followers you have, there's no filtering process any more.”
While some managers are scratching their heads about how to deal with it, others are embracing Twitter for networking and outreach. Workplace-specific microblogging sites like Yammer have even cropped up.
Prof. Seidel says he expects rules about Twitter conduct to creep into company human resources packages, but that's still a long way off. Many companies don't even have specific guidelines about Facebook, he says.
“They're writing [Twitter] off as a crazy fad,” he says of managers' attitudes toward the site. “Eventually there'll be little workshops about how to keep an appropriate Web presence.”
Perhaps by then the Cisco Fatty will be running one.
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