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Ghost Producers... (pg. 3)
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| johncannons1 |
i know you aussy guys will know of potbelleez but you guys overseas may not..
they released a hit called dont hold back..
the song was EVERYWHERE radio clubs compilations haha everywhere..
turns out
they didnt even make the track,..
was a guy called sam la more..
who used to be in this group called tonite only with groove terminator.
granted one of the potbelleez sung on it .. but mainly all sam la mores work..
and they got VERY famous... |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
Yah, its a partnership that definately works for both sides. Also Sasha has Duncan Forbes on his team as well. |
Yeah, the COMA gang is Forbes, May, Barry Jaimieson and possibly someone else. Not BT, Junkie XL etc. Sorry if that wasn't clear. |
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| Lolo |
I think that the big names in this industry don't have time or energy anymore between all gigs that they have. A quite famous dj gets like 200 gigs in a YEAR. That's almost 4 gigs in a week! Can you see this person record anything after that?? I can't. I've experienced trouble after some touring, and it keeps you away from music for days.
The performers in our industry are the dj's, not the musicians. We can only blame ourselves for blindly adoring the dj instead of the musician. Welcome to dance music 3.0, where artists are brands such as Nike, Mac Do, and anything else. And that's not because your brand is not famous that the big names can't use your skills. At least you get the pride to make it better at higher/crossover levels too, where a lot of money is being invested.
If they paid me a lot of money to produce, mix, or master their tracks, I'd do it, because I've never felt comfy acting as a douchebag in front of 20 000 people, and they kinda do it pretty well after all . I know those people would rely on my know-how and my skills, and that they'd trust me too.
Looks like you have to make a choice nowadays, and it's probably a good thing for the dance music industry, as long as you put its future into GOOD and RESPONSIBLE hands.
It's not faking, it's just that the lambda people really DO NOT CARE about who made what on a record. They just see an image, and everything else is not important. You can be the biggest musician on this earth and end up having trouble paying your bills, too. You can either get stuck on that point, or move on and deal with it. You can either make enemies in this kindergarten, or you can make reliable business partners and eventually friends.
Mentalities must change inside the industry... Too many youngsters think they'll be the next superstar dj after 6 months because they can put 16 tracks together in a cracked version of Ableton Live, and they're all into that competition circus. Forget about it, focus on the music and nothing else, and see the others all come up and disappear after a year or two because of their irresponsible and arrogant behaviour described in this paragraph, while you're in the background humbly doing your thing, eventually for others, and it still pays the bills.
I wonder when some will get mature, but if you think it's a huge concern for me, then you're wrong. No time for this in my 70hours-a-week workflow. |
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| Theran |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
we should create our own label. |
+1
I have also noticed that the distance between America and Europe music wise is quite big. Although, I do think that, thanks to the internet, this shouldn't be a problem anymore. As for saying it's hard for a American artist to set foot to the ground it Europe, the other way around is the same. I'm from The Netherlands, and there are a lot of good artists here which tried to make it in America but couldn't somehow. The only Dutch band that has reached the No1 position in the American Charts was the Golden Earring.
But bearing that in mind, a lot of American artists reached the No1 charts position in the Netherlands, so I think that success in a country is genre related. In America rock and hip-hop are really big, so I don't really see a dutch rockband or Ali B. topping the charts over there. In a contrary most dancemusic comes from Europe, and a lot of it comes from The Netherlands. I.e. Tiësto and AvB had a lot of hits topping the charts over here, but again, I don't see that happening in America.
I also think that a American Dance label won't be that succesfull, not that they aren't good or anything, but there already are soooo many labels around, all releasing top quality stuff, and most important, most of them are based in the country where the genre is hot. For a American dance label, it would be a extra step to take!
Edit: and Richard Durand is a ghostproducer for DJ Jean |
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| EgosXII |
i know that benno de Goeji does a lot of 'ghost producing'...
tiesto hasn't produced a track himself for ages, not sure who works for him... i heard stoneface and terminal used to do his stuff, until they decided to come out for themselves...
i personally wouldn't do it, cause i'd prefer to release stuff myself.. for someone like benno though, i suppose he's been around long enough to have room for a good name for himself, AND grab some extra cash doing the work for others as well :p |
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| Theran |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
tiesto hasn't produced a track himself for ages, not sure who works for him... i heard stoneface and terminal used to do his stuff, until they decided to come out for themselves...
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That actually isn't true, lately he has been producing again (mostly remixes though). You can really hear the difference when somebody else is creating the Tiësto tracks or when he does it himself. I think that the album 'Just Be' was produced by other that himself, around that time, he became no1 DJ, so I think he was really busy touring and didn't really had the time to produce but a album had to come. I think that 'Elements of Life' as well as 'In my memory', are Tiësto's self-produced albums. Compare them with 'Just be' and you'll hear what I mean.
I never heard Stoneface & Terminal ever produced for him (their biography doesn't state anything like that), I did heard that Mark Norman some of his music, I wouldn't know why Tiësto would search artist outside the Black Hole stable to make his music.
I think his own stuff is way better! |
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| EgosXII |
ahh rightyo, no wonder his recent stuff is really boring and cliched :p
i'm probably wrong about stoneface and terminal then, i heard the worked for somebody.. can't remember now :(
in a recent interview ferry did he said he was the only one out of the big boys (armin, PVD, tiesticles etc) still doing all of his tracks completely by himself...
pretty interesting... |
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| Theran |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
ahh rightyo, no wonder his recent stuff is really boring and cliched :p |
That's your opinion ;), I like it..
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
tiesticles |
LOL! |
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Hehe you are not alone though, and i do live in Europe.
As far as i know the really big countries when it comes to this kind of music are England, Germany, Netherlands.
The rest probably has the same small percentage as in the US.
Atleast that is the impression i have. |
Whaat mate :eek: .. Are you saying trance has never been big in norway? It all started here man.. tiesto - theme from norefjell :toocool: And you totally forget Russia, and Poland, and Ukraine, and Sweden.. man.. trance is big!! :D And it's on its way up again here too.. :D scene growing and many new talents coming up. Ur not born in the wrong country man :) |
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| Theran |
| quote: | Originally posted by lenieNt Force
Are you saying trance has never been big in norway? |
-> He didn't say that, he's naming the biggest 'dance' countries ;)
| quote: | Originally posted by lenieNt Force
tiesto - theme from norefjell :toocool |
-> You know he's Dutch right? ...... ;)
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theran
-> He didn't say that, he's naming the biggest 'dance' countries ;)
-> You know he's Dutch right? ...... ;)
:whip: |
hehe of course mate :P ... but u know norefjell is a norwegian mountain? :) |
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| hundred |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
armin, PVD, tiesticles etc)
pretty interesting... |
AHAHAH YES
benny benassi's brother produces under benny benassi |
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