Originally posted by smellyblack
Did they teach you to play the butterfly? That position is very dangerous to teach to children, because of the un natural positioning and movement of the legs. Knee problems, ankle problems, and lower back problems. I can also tell you that when you start playing high level hockey (i stopped after midget AAA, although i still played in garage and company leagues after that up until now), equipment or not, big shooters = ouch, not to mention when players take a run at you to get you off your game.
no man, i didn't play butterfly, i was more of a flop around and make saves a-la dominic hasek or curtis joseph style.
i never played outside of houseleague, so maybe that's why.
Ania_xox
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Originally posted by BTG
no, what you said was ing stupid.
In all honesty, I think you're bullting or you have no idea what you're talking about. Since you display the logo in your avatar, I assume you at least somewhat keep up with the team????
Aside from personal opinion, look at the facts, you blithering idiot.
Belfour won the Vezina trophy twice. He brought the leafs to the conference semi-finals in the playoffs in his second season with them (damn far compared to subsequent seasons imo). He laid down a franchise record for wins in his first season and ranked in the top ten overall in the league that year if I'm not mistaken.
Aside from numbers, he brought so much heart to the game. He ed up his back his first year with the Leafs, came back the next season and charged them right into the playoffs. Eddie the Eagle... man I will never forget how many times we celebrated his shutouts that year.
What did Curtis Joseph do for the leafs? Cried to his mama that Pat Quinn wouldn't give him 4 years so he peaces out to Detroit.
If you want to contest things I say then lay down something of substance. That is, if you're capable of communicating anything remotely intelligible you ing dip.
ChemEnhanced
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Originally posted by The17sss
american football is the . the ultimate team sport.
the only reason anyone watches that garbage is because of gambling....its the most boring sport on the planet to watch. I would rather watch handicap curling then american ball.
Alex
Opening an NFL club in Nevada would expose the sport for what it's mostly about.
BTG
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Originally posted by Ania_xox
He brought the leafs to the conference semi-finals in the playoffs in his second season with them (damn far compared to subsequent seasons imo).
he won 2 games that series. i wouldn't call that a monumental feat.
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Originally posted by Ania_xox
What did Curtis Joseph do for the leafs? Cried to his mama that Pat Quinn wouldn't give him 4 years so he peaces out to Detroit.
got us to confrence finals in 01-02 season, lost against carolina, but still, thats further than 'conference semi finals' you dumbass.
i'm not even claiming that cujo's torontos best goalie, but i mean, he was better than belfour.
Domesticated
Amusing that a lack of hockey on TV can ruin BTG's whole night.
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Originally posted by verndogs
The most boring sport I've ever watched? Olympic handball!
Really? I always thought handball was incredibly exciting; the fact that the rules dictate both feet must be off the ground to score ensures this. I think I even made a thread about it during last year's Olympics. Also the chicks who play it are very hot, Cristina Neagu from Romania in particular.
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I'm from Minnesota, so I love hockey. That said, I played football for 12 years, and I can assure you that it separates the men from the boys unlike any other sport I've seen. I don't think there's another sport that meshes physical toughness with strategy as well. If anything is wrong with football, it's actually that it's too brutal - I broke my femur twice in three years.
Ha ha ha, you guys make me laugh. American football is a sport.
Like SYSTEM-J, I think the idea of measuring a sport on bloodiness alone is ridiculous, but then again, toughness is another admirable quality, just like endurance or skill or precision.
Three reasons why American football is piss-weak:
a) They wear ing armour!
b) The collisions mostly come from the same direction, which allows players to anticipate them and brace accordingly.
c) The defenders may be big guys, but they are also quite slow, reducing their impact.
In contrast, Australian football players wear no protective equipment whatsoever. A vast majority of them are well over six foot tall and many more weigh upwards of 100kg. They must run around 10km (6 miles) per match, in 25 minute quarters, with no off/on breaks like the American version. As the game is non-linear (i.e not just back and forth), the hits can come from any direction, meaning injuries are usually a lot more severe. People have died in club/local level games.
See this compilation to give you an idea of what I'm talking about :
Pretty much everything shown there is within the rules of the game. That's another thing that makes AFL so tough as opposed to ice hockey or other sports where brawling happens frequently but is not allowed by the rules.
Ania_xox
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Originally posted by BTG
he won 2 games that series
if you want to debate this with me, first get your facts straight
Also, you're a waste of a half-assed brain if you get so riled up over my opinion of who T.O's best goalie was. There are a lot of factors that go into an opinion like that.
(although, if you want to get technical... the NHL defines the recipient of the Vezina trophy as the goalie "judged to be the best at his position". Belfour has won this trophy twice. Cujo? Never.)
:D eat darling
Dervish
If you want a hard game play this (Shinty, the precursor to Ice Hockey):
The17sss
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Originally posted by Domesticated
Ha ha ha, you guys make me laugh. American football is a sport.
Like SYSTEM-J, I think the idea of measuring a sport on bloodiness alone is ridiculous, but then again, toughness is another admirable quality, just like endurance or skill or precision.
Lord. You must be joking. You think you could put pads on a hockey player, put him out there with NFL players, and he could take the punishment? Insanity! Nobody is saying hockey players are pussies. It's the soccer players that are.
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Three reasons why American football is piss-weak:
a) They wear ing armour!
b) The collisions mostly come from the same direction, which allows players to anticipate them and brace accordingly.
c) The defenders may be big guys, but they are also quite slow, reducing their impact.
a) If they didn't, there would be 50 broken bones per game.
b) That is complete nonsense. Video clips below of guys who are physical specimens getting absolutely destroyed.
c) Wrong again. Only the big uglies in the middle of the line are slow, and that's a relative term at best. The rest of these guys that are laying the hits run 40 meters between 4.3 and 4.7 seconds. Imagine a 6'4, 250 pound linebacker coming at you head on and again, tell me if you think Alexander Ovechkin could stop him dead in his tracks.
Here's Reggie Bush gets killed:
Ryan Clark laying the wood
...again (hold for the other replay angles)
Anquan Boldin (who is a beast) getting his jaw shattered
Willis McGahee gets knocked out.
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In contrast, Australian football players wear no protective equipment whatsoever. A vast majority of them are well over six foot tall and many more weigh upwards of 100kg. They must run around 10km (6 miles) per match, in 25 minute quarters, with no off/on breaks like the American version. As the game is non-linear (i.e not just back and forth), the hits can come from any direction, meaning injuries are usually a lot more severe. People have died in club/local level games.
I'll give it up for those guys man... no doubt they are some tough motherfuckers. They aren't right in the head like most of the UFC fighters you see.
Domesticated
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Originally posted by The17sss
a) If they didn't, there would be 50 broken bones per game.
No, they go that hard because they're wearing pads. If the armour had never been introduced into the game no one would tackle like they do now.
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Originally posted by The17sss
b) That is complete nonsense. Video clips below of guys who are physical specimens getting absolutely destroyed.
You misunderstood me. I'm not saying you can prevent getting hurt just because you know which direction the potential injury is coming from, but you can reduce its severity. You underestimate the potential of the human body to tense certain muscles or move at the last minute compared with that caught completely unaware.
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Originally posted by The17sss
c) Wrong again. Only the big uglies in the middle of the line are slow, and that's a relative term at best. The rest of these guys that are laying the hits run 40 meters between 4.3 and 4.7 seconds. Imagine a 6'4, 250 pound linebacker coming at you head on and again, tell me if you think Alexander Ovechkin could stop him dead in his tracks.
Okay, fair enough. I haven't watched a great deal of NFL so I'm probably wrong.
BTG
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Originally posted by Ania_xox
if you want to debate this with me, first get your facts straight
