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what it takes to produce... do i have the hard part down already? (pg. 2)
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| cryophonik |
Also, to answer your original question:
| quote: | | ...do i have the hard part down already? |
That's hard to say, because the "hard part" can be different for each person. Some people struggle with the creative aspects, others struggle with the technical aspects. |
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| DigiNut |
LOL, any idiot can dream up something that sounds great in his head but awful in reality. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but that's about as far from actual talent as you can get.
People daydream about all the time. Doesn't mean it has any link to reality. |
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| Dj Pyster |
| Lol, you know how to cut to the core diginut :-p |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
One of the hardest parts is being objective enough with your own work, to be aware of the actual quality behind what you`ve made. |
This can go both ways, though. I can often be hypercritical of my own stuff, and other people end up liking it more than I do. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
This can go both ways, though. I can often be hypercritical of my own stuff, and other people end up liking it more than I do. |
That happens to me as well.
Best thing to do then is to let the track rest for a while, eventually it will tell you if it is cool enough. |
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| mfitterer1 |
| Just be patient, the journey is the fun part. When you start expecting greatness from yourself it won't be as fun. The first time you succeed with each element of producing, it feels amazing, because of all the work you put into it. |
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| -FSP- |
Dude, just grind it out. read as many resource you can, and just grind, grind, grind.
no easy way out here.
eventually, by chance, the random sounds you put together might actually be great. just think of it as a lottery for now heh. |
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| EddieZilker |
Where I'm concerned, the only easy day is yesterday and you're only as good as your last song. It always seems like the current song is the hardest one I've ever worked on. There are always new learning experiences that each song seems to have in store for me and there is always a learning curve.
The times when I was cocky and churned out at tune on a breeze, I along with others weren't happy with the result. It may have been passable, but it's hardly anything I'm proud of. My rule for myself is that if it's not hard, I'm not doing it right.
Case in point, I'm remixing cryophonic's tune and the day I down-loaded the parts, I laid down a chord-progression that took all of about fifteen minutes to plug into the sequencer and get edited and arranged. I'm keeping it, but the bass-line is being a total bitch to get into the arrangement (but it will sound wicked cool, once it gets in there).
My last production was pretty much the same thing. I comped a very basic chord progression, then became frustrated with I added in the arpeggio - but the bottom line is that I'm a better producer for going through the hard part. I'm getting better at doing things that were once a total PITA. The better I get at doing the simple things, the more I'm finding things that are harder to make sound good once the simple things are in place. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Honestly if I had to do it all over again, I don't think I would.
When I look back at how "handicapped" I was as a new producer, knowing what I know now, I would go back in time and tell the newbie me to get a different hobby.
I use to have the same delusions of grandeur (sp) like "I would be an awesome ing trance producer cause Im naturally artistic and know what sounds good".
haha! If I only knew.
I would have never imagined in my life HOW MUCH TIME and EFFORT you need to put into this skill to even get semi decent.
One day I hope I can reach that level of expertise that as a newbie I didn't know I would need to make the quality of music I heard in my head. (thats a terribly worded sentence lol)
I just kinda wonder if I'll ever be happy with my music, I thought it would take 5 years max to sound like a pro, its been 6 years and I'm realistically not even close. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| And when I say "pro" all I really mean is the ability to reach my expecations and not waste endless hours always falling short. |
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| mfitterer1 |
I think something all new'ish producers should do when working on tracks is try starting them each differently. Change this up, it may be more difficult to complete something but it's better than going back to your bread and butter every time and you'll realize that your sound will become far more sophisticated and enjoyable if you do this.
It's also a bigger challenge, and obviously all producers like challenges or they wouldn't produce! |
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| Reno |
For me the hardest part has been undoubtedly mixing. I find I can compose decent tracks, good melodies, good arrangement and getting everything working together but it's incredibly hard to get those tracks sounding professional and by that I mean each element sits tightly in the mix and works together.
So often my track sounds great in my studio but play it on another system and it sucks. The final tweaks are just beyond me at this point i.e. the eq'ing and good use of compression so my mixes sound loud but complete when played on any system. |
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