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Air France jet missing over Atlantic (pg. 14)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_alfi
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This, lol.
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
airplanes fly because of observations and method of analysis of RAW DATA. if engineering cant achieve something with physics, they will do it by processing experimental data.
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That might be true, if they weren't able to design planes based on proven aerodynamic theory. Otherwise you're saying that every plane designer is just guessing when when build planes. It's all just a fluke that planes fly right?
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
but the theory of aerodynamics is not developed yes to explain the effect with allows for the cause to happen.
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Wat?
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
fluid mechanics theory of the effect of flight is missing, but the results exists (planes fly)
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That's because they've have the physics of aerodynamics nailed down for pretty much the best part of 75 years.
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
huge tropical storm over the ocean = extremely high turbulence and or instant freezing because of the really cold condensed air trapped in the storm that react with the hot air to cause extreme weather. this is how extreme weather happens. a significant difference of temperature between two fronts: one is cold, one is warm.
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Wow, meteorology 101. Did you get that from the weather channel?
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
when the force resulting from the turbulence of air is greater than the structure strength of the airplane, the airplane will lose a wing, or get broken in half or even in more than 2 pieces.
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Yes, and?
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
go learn to analyze. most reports blame the dead pilots
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That's because they really did this one up. They flew in to a serious storm, despite warnings, then reacted completely the wrong way. You do realize they have the box box data right? Or was it all faked, including the voice recordings?
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
, because the first rule of business is:
protect the investment. best way to do that, is to not admit any fault of the product, and blame it all on human error.
you really need to start using some logic towards understand the world.
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I would suggest using evidence first, then applying logic. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
the planes are serviced by the manufacturer, not the airline. So if there was a cover up, the airlines would blame the technology, the manufacturer would blame the pilot. i think this is a pretty good system of checks and balances where both have conflicting interests and access to the flight recorders.
And the statistics show about an 60 - 80% lean to the side of human error for commercial crashes. These are just meta analyses from airlines and plane manufacturers. There are tons of banned airlines, how many plane manufactures go out of a business for negligence ? |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Wow, meteorology 101. Did you get that from the weather channel?
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Haha, I was thinking his 'info' was rather from some Discovery/History/Whatever channel airplane disaster show. |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
And the statistics show about an 60 - 80% lean to the side of human error for commercial crashes. These are just meta analyses from airlines and plane manufacturers. There are tons of banned airlines, how many plane manufactures go out of a business for negligence ? |
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| TheTrinity |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
This, lol.
That might be true, if they weren't able to design planes based on proven aerodynamic theory. Otherwise you're saying that every plane designer is just guessing when when build planes. It's all just a fluke that planes fly right?
Wat?
That's because they've have the physics of aerodynamics nailed down for pretty much the best part of 75 years.
Wow, meteorology 101. Did you get that from the weather channel?
Yes, and?
That's because they really did this one up. They flew in to a serious storm, despite warnings, then reacted completely the wrong way. You do realize they have the box box data right? Or was it all faked, including the voice recordings?
I would suggest using evidence first, then applying logic. |
first find logical evidence, then apply logic. |
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| TheTrinity |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
That's because they've have the physics of aerodynamics nailed down for pretty much the best part of 75 years.
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no they havent. we dont understand the physics towards anything, after relativity changed everything. |
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| TheTrinity |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
That's because they really did this one up. They flew in to a serious storm, despite warnings, then reacted completely the wrong way. You do realize they have the box box data right? Or was it all faked, including the voice recordings?
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there was no meteorology warning about the storm. they flew into it because they werent warned about it. they didnt see it. its night, at 35,000 atmosphere. clouds, horizon and ocean are all the same color.
we havent seen any voice recordings, or proof of voice recordings. |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| Just read that the full 'official' report will be released on 5th July. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
we havent seen any voice recordings |
You'd be more successful if you tried to hear them instead. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
first find logical evidence, then apply logic. |
Live long and prosper!
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
no they havent. we dont understand the physics towards anything, after relativity changed everything.
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So now you're saying they did have the physics nailed down but Albert ed it up for everyone a few decades later? So all those previous designs that were based on the established physics and just so happened to fly perfectly well were held up in the air by magic and hope?
| quote: | Originally posted by TheTrinity
we havent seen any voice recordings, or proof of voice recordings.
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So all the black box recordings that have surfaced so far are fake, and it's all a giant conspiracy just to cover up a malfunction of the plane? As pointed out, the airline firstly wouldn't be directly responsible for it and second air France already had a catastrophic mechanical failure with concord and that didn't sink them, did it? And they admitted all the facts. Why would they make a massive concerted effort to cover up a disaster that points to malfunction and pilot error?
Not much logic going on here. |
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| Guest |
| explain. provide proof. discuss your points. validate them. come to a conclusion. prove me wrong. |
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