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Trailer gets a Parking Ticket (pg. 4)
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
There is a sign or should be one at every entrance to the city that states the rules for over night parking. This is how they get around the sign issue. They will argue that you should have read the sign when entering toronto. The secret is to find an access to toronto where they forgot to post a sign and then say you entered from there.
Its sneaky and wrong for them to do it this way... but hey its toronto! |
what do mean by entering Toronto? if I'm already downtown, and I'm parking - there is no sign/firehydrants/driveways, what do I do?
Chem - so ok, how do they calculate the 3 hour thing then? if they're coming around an hour after I parked, how do they know I wasn't parked there for 5 hours already? Or do they make a note and come back again? |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
what do mean by entering Toronto? if I'm already downtown, and I'm parking - there is no sign/firehydrants/driveways, what do I do?
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i think those signs are usually on major roads at the boundary of toronto and generally any city/town. they usually have the cities parking bylaws written on them as well as the speed limit that's supposed to be followed unless otherwise noted. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
what do mean by entering Toronto? if I'm already downtown, and I'm parking - there is no sign/firehydrants/driveways, what do I do?
Chem - so ok, how do they calculate the 3 hour thing then? if they're coming around an hour after I parked, how do they know I wasn't parked there for 5 hours already? Or do they make a note and come back again? |
Typically, they make a note and then come back...sometimes they will put a mark on your tire.
If you live in the city then you should make yourself aware of all bylaws....to the city there is no excuse for residence not to know the bylaws. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Typically, they make a note and then come back...sometimes they will put a mark on your tire.
If you live in the city then you should make yourself aware of all bylaws....to the city there is no excuse for residence not to know the bylaws. |
I'm just being curious for now :) I don't drive (and probably never will lol) |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
to be fair....its not just toronto....any city has parking bylaws that probably 90% of the people don't know about. |
yup...
Same in the Sauga... |
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| Jayx1 |
| except that in toronto its permit only parking on most streets (new in the last 10 years btw... it used to be you could park anywhere overnight unless there was a rare snow emergency called) |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
except that in toronto its permit only parking on most streets (new in the last 10 years btw... it used to be you could park anywhere overnight) |
it like that in Milton too. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
it like that in Milton too. |
im sure the disease is spreading... a great way to make money which is what parking and speeding fines have become |
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| Engine9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by -g-
here's the sequence of things you should do:
1. upon receiving notification of the trial date, file for evidence disclosure from the prosecution
2. about 2 weeks prior to trial, when the evidence has not been forthcoming(because they almost never have their together), file a motion before the court to have the charges "stayed" due to the prosecution's failure to comply with said disclosure.
3. the justice of the peace(judge) prob won't allow a stay of proceedings, but will adjourn the trial to a later date to provide the prosecution with time to comply.
4. upon receipt of the new trial date, file again for evidence disclosure. if they comply, see step 5, if they don't go back to step 3 and replace "adjourn" with "charges stayed"(you're done).
5. 2 weeks before trial file an 11b motion to have charges stayed due to your right to a speedy trial being violated.
6. plead your motion and win(it will have now taken prob 2 years to come to trial).
7. if the above goes through without a stay at any point, you MAY have to actually argue a case - which is not hard btw - IF the officer shows up EVERY SINGLE TIME.
done. |
thanks!!! |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
im sure the disease is spreading... a great way to make money which is what parking and speeding fines have become |
I don't have a problem with it being a way to generate revenue however; some bylaws are tad bit retarded. |
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| patpicos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Engine9
some more info just for you:
"The city of Toronto has ramped up the issuance of parking tickets to the point where 2.7 million tickets are issued every year."
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Thats ~7300 tickets a day, ridiculous! |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I don't have a problem with it being a way to generate revenue however; some bylaws are tad bit retarded. |
You dont?
I do... why??
Tickets and fines are supposed to be punishment for doing something wrong. TAXES are for revenue generation. Somewhere along the line things got blurred. Not only are fines used for revenue generation, but the rules are confusing (on purpose) so as to trick you into breaking the law or leave you with little choice. Thus the fines now turn from punishment to revenue generation and turn otherwise law abiding citizens into law breakers. When this happens it's called legalized corruption bordering on extortion in my books.
If you wish to live in a police state bent on squeezing every last cent out of people thats your choice... but not for me thanks
Speeding tickets have become the same thing... note the lowering of speed limits in recent years to the point where everyone speeds (as they are artificially low)
A little tidbit from todays news:
| quote: | Winnipeg's police officers have been told to issue more traffic tickets, in part to increase revenue.
And a union representing cops says the move could hurt their efforts to curb the city's gang violence.
Police Chief Keith McCaskill said last night he -- and he alone, without input from Mayor Sam Katz -- recently made the call to patrolling officers and to those in specialized units to step up enforcement against speeding and other Highway Traffic Act offences.
The directive comes as the number of offence notices in Winnipeg has dropped steadily during the past few years -- and is down this year about 70% or more from the number of tickets issued at this point in 2008, the chief said.
"I gave the direction to get our officers to do a little more traffic enforcement. Every officer should do a little bit of everything," McCaskill said, adding "part of it" is an effort to boost the police service's budget of about $150 million.
"It's certainly tied to our budget. I'll be honest about that."
But Mike Sutherland, president of the Winnipeg Police Association, said in "certain situations," the beefed-up efforts to stop speeding and other traffic violations will hamper officers' efforts to fight the kind of gang violence that killed a female bystander in a shooting spree at a Main Street wedding reception last month.
"It's difficult to do two things at once," Sutherland said.
"The gang violence issue, especially in light of the homicide at Club 13 and others, is very significant right now. If we had that more well in hand, I would say the traffic issue is something we could look at. We obviously have resource issues. We need more people on the gang side, and need more people in traffic. To ask officers to do even more, I'm not so certain about in terms of practicalities." McCaskill downplayed a media report patrolling officers have been told to hand out a minimum of one to two traffic offence notices per shift, per cruiser. He stressed, though, the tactical and street crime units are included under the directive to keep greater watch on traffic if their members "have time to do it."
Gang crime
And the chief insisted no increased efforts to stop speeders and red-light runners will hamper cops' battle against gang crime in the core district and North End.
"Absolutely not. We've got some operations out in the North End. And we're going to continue to do that," McCaskill said.
"Most important, obviously, are those criminal investigations."
Dennis Volkov, an assistant to Katz, refused to make the mayor available for comment.
"There's no story there," Volkov said. "It's an administrative issue." |
Bless this country! |
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