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| Slylee |
well i appreciate it and i agree, which is why i have never been pushy about it all. all i have ever done is give my 2 cents when pat would come to me and complain. i was never like, "stop working with him, bla bla bla" i just simply said "he's a in and u should know that by now" type of thing or "is it woth it?" i guess my comments just made pat start thinking about things.
to be honest, i would prefer that they just keep it a strictly professional relationship but it's hard because they've been "friends" for a while too and go on trips together, etc... but there has always been talking about behind his back and i just dont like phony relationships and hanging out with people we really dont like. and if we start to ween off the friendship part, then gets the hint and stops giving us jobs because he's a little ing baby and likes to have leverage over pat and my roommate. |
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| lenazi |
who pat chooses as friends is also his decision jamie.
unless the guy is making patrick do things like cheat, and treats you like garbage you should not say a damn thing.
i know that any woman in my past who has tried to get in between a friendship that was around longer than they were, i would get mad beyond words and tell them quite seriously "who the hell do you think you are? If i choose to have someone in my life it is because i see it fit to do so. I chose you did i not? Now you are telling me i make bad decisions?".
wink wink
*cue stutter*
thats right;)
that usually made them be quiet. if patrick wanted nothing to do with him, he would have nothing to do with him. This decision is 100% his and if you influence it in any way, it could very likely bite you in the ass one day.
The dynamics of a male friendship are not for you to understand. My gf sometimes sees me and my friends and wonders if we even like each other because of the way we sometimes act. Then she sees the dynamic of when they come through for us through thick and thin and is glad that i have these people in my life, because she loves me and trusts my judgment enough to make my own decisions. |
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| Slylee |
lol this isn't about me vs. the friend at all. this is about pat being fed up with being treated with no respect by someone he thought was his equal/friend/partner.
pat has made this decision on his own and all of a sudden i'm just like, "wow, they're really not going to work together any more" and i'm just hoping it's what pat really wants. like i said, i'm going to talk to him tonight but i have never been all in his face about it at all or given him an ultimatum. if anyhthing, PAT is the one who always tries to get out of hanging out with this guy lately because he's sick of him.
the roommate is fed up too jay, it's not just me. this guy is a real piece of work and everyone (including his own girlfriend at one point) is sick of his ing . i think talking with pat about it will put me at ease because i dont ever want to be involved in patrick making a bad business decision. he is the one who has to work with him, not me. but when all i hear is complaints every ing day when pat gets home from working with him, what am i supposed to say? of course i'm going to speak my mind about him. |
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| lenazi |
if you are actually wondering if this is what pat really wants than it probably is you vs the friend sorry.;)
i don't know anything more than you have said, but it is common sense that leads me to think this. If it is all pat then you are in the clear. Just be careful what you say and how you might influence him, because this sort of deal can get messy.
protect ya neck!
guah guah |
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| Slylee |
well i guess i'll know tonight when i ask him.
i'm just going to tell him that if the money/business is worth it and if he feels he can tolerate that on a regular basis then i'll support whatever he wants to do. i'll put on a happy face and go to dinner with the dickwad if that's what he wants...but i really dont think it is. |
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| Danny Ocean |
| i think you should actually encourage this relationship, since the guy is brining some money in. So what, they go fishing sometimes and he acts like ? it, in the end its about business. Unless this guy is is ing you over somehow there is no reason to break off business connections. |
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| lenazi |
jamie.
trust me on this one. say nothing unless he asks. The less you involve yourself the better off you are as your boyfriend can never say it was because of you this way.
i'm all for communication being a healthy part of a relationship, but there are just some subjects that are too dangerous to butt into unless you are asked to :)
i know i hate a few of my gf's friends, but i keep quiet because i trust her judgment and because they are not my friends just because im dating her;). |
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| iTranscendence |
| I came into this thread expecting sexual guilt. Again I am disappoint. |
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| Amduscias |
I came here to say i love jamie
the end.
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| Slylee |
i know but he kinda made his mind up already and i just want to make sure he knows i'll support whatever he wants to do and make sure that it's not because i've always said the guy's an and pat can do better. i was just doing what any loving girlfriend would do which is stick up for him/make him feel better. you think i shouldn't say anything at all?
and this guy BY NO MEANS puts food on our table. pat's about to bring in close to 8k over the next couple weeks and none of these jobs have anything to do with the . in fact, 3k of that is from one of my own friends who called me/pat for a job.
*edit* and i would also like to add that pat and my roommate are 10 times more skilled in the industry and actually have a trade and a great reputation with their clients, and this guy isn't nearly as good as they are at ANYthing. he's mediocre and just has balls and knows how to take advantage of dumb rich clients and overprices jobs and then calls pat and my roommmate to do the work because he knows he can't swing it himself. then he walks all over them. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Amduscias
I came here to say i love jamie
the end.
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stop being weird |
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| Amduscias |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
stop being weird |
Im not being weird! im just not being nasty :p |
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