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Guv All-Access Parties: On the decline? (pg. 7)
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| Swamper |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
yeah he is about the same size as yoda. |
don't make me slap you with my light saber |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
don't make me slap you with my light saber |
im scared.
but if you're referring to your wiener then that wouldn't harm anyone. |
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| jon jon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
don't make me slap you with my light saber |
lol this thread got so homo-erotic all of a sudden |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
This is true. Given the amount of listening options people now have many can't be bothered to put in the necessary effort required to find that which is 'underground'... unless of course they've been in the scene long enough, get bored of what they're used to and start looking deeper.
imo there are at least 2 types of underground - an underground sound and an underground artist (or combo thereof). If you're an underground artist, does that mean you're just not popular enough (yet) ? If you have an underground sound is it considered as such until you become popular and then your sound is not so underground anymore? That term is thrown around too much and everyone has a different definition of it. "omg, I'm at some dingy venue listening to dj Joe Blow pumping out some electro-house-techy-disco-funk and omg it's so underground wish u were here xoxo #wmc2010"
Ultimately, smaller names are just filler on a big bill...you hope some of those will blow up in the future so you have a good rapport with them but for the most part you want the heavy hitters to come in for big parties. Those are the ones that bring in the big numbers - even if their sets disappoint more often than not. The diehards will be there no matter what and the rest will be there because they're expecting a good party. Those that are too fixated on the DJ giving them yet another auralgasm are usually the same ones who bitch the most in review threads... but hey, that makes for an entertaining read. |
Exactly + what Gera said as well...
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
speak for yourself! LOL :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: |
LOL you know what I mean mang. |
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| Swamper |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
lol this thread got so homo-erotic all of a sudden |
slow down there apocalipto! |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
Ultimately, smaller names are just filler on a big bill
...you hope some of those will blow up in the future so you have a good rapport with them but for the most part you want the heavy hitters to come in for big parties. Those are the ones that bring in the big numbers - even if their sets disappoint more often than not. |
That is true. But the other side is, in order to keep things fresh, exciting and interesting (i.e. to avoid stagnation in the scene), you need to bring in fresh talent. Eventually people are going to get tired of seeing the same heavy hitters over and over. That's how you get new generation heavy hitters: by giving the smaller guys a chance
| quote: | | The diehards will be there no matter what and the rest will be there because they're expecting a good party. Those that are too fixated on the DJ giving them yet another auralgasm are usually the same ones who bitch the most in review threads... but hey, that makes for an entertaining read. |
[color=ccff00]Not really. I rarely go to Guv All-Access parties anymore because I don't really want to see Sander K for 100th time or pay $60 to see David Guetta. I would however love to go to more All-Access parties because Guv is one of the best clubs in the world, and an All-Access party experience is like no other. I don't go as much anymore because the bookings are either just plain crap, or the same thing over and over.
Obviously you're going to need some pretty mainstream/cheese DJs to get the bulk of your crowd through the door, but I just find it disappointing how now they pretty much rely solely on cheese, and have forgotten about forward-thinking bookings. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
That is true. But the other side is, in order to keep things fresh, exciting and interesting (i.e. to avoid stagnation in the scene), you need to bring in fresh talent. Eventually people are going to get tired of seeing the same heavy hitters over and over. That's how you get new generation heavy hitters: by giving the smaller guys a chance
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but like del already mentioned, the small guys are not enough to fill a big room which is why they tend to get booked at smaller venues. |
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| bliksem |
| my only comment is that guv sucks wrt a 5-6 years ago but oh well happens :) and it's what we got in toronto for now...so yes def a decline |
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| Spin Laden |
Montreal def has same issues with the crap Bal en Blanc parties.
Book the cheese but surround them with djs that will leave a lasing impression, kill two birds with one stone, imo. I remember a party in 2007 when ppl came to see Guetta but came away afterwards saying "that Fanciulli was pretty good, better than David Guetta". That's what you want the newbies to say since Guetta always plays identical to what you'd hear in a nightclub.
Bring the crap djs to fill the floor, but book the decent ones too to bring them back. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
but like del already mentioned, the small guys are not enough to fill a big room which is why they tend to get booked at smaller venues. |
I don't think G is saying to have Guv filled w little guys or unknown djs constantly though...
Why can't there be some sort of balance? Have big names combined w relative unknowns that are on the rise?? That's how they were in the past...and it rocked!
I saw De-koze playing in KH for the first Smirnoff Experience and ROCKED it...played trance too. Just difference like that combined with things people know will be an even better party rather than all cheese. |
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| Swamper |
Double edged sword people...
you blame the clubs for not bringing in lesser known DJs as often
Clubs see it as lesser known DJs not being worth it $$ wise because they don't bring in enough people
Ultimately it still goes back to what I said before:
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
Given the amount of listening options people now have many can't be bothered to put in the necessary effort required to find that which is 'underground'... unless of course they've been in the scene long enough, get bored of what they're used to and start looking deeper. |
What the people want is what influences what the clubs do - not the other way around...if one formula used to work and no longer does (as well) then you make changes. That's it. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| Personally, I blame TranceAddict for the decline in good quality All Access Nights at Guv. |
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