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Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq - 2.5 million views in 3 days (pg. 3)
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| DjWhooCares |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
(one of Lebez's favorites I might add) |
what does that have anything to do with that guy?
id take lebez side over yours any ing day.
why do you rethugs love war so much??
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| Sonic_c |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Did you ever stop to consider that humour is the primary coping mechanism we have to deal with the tragedies of such a frail existence? JEEZ, YOU'RE SO INSENSITIVE. |
Yeah right.... I seen loads of americans making jokes about the world trade centres on sept 11th.
Fact is if these were american citizens gunned down by muslims in the centre of New York the guy woouldn't have said what he did. I am sick of people turning a blind eye to 25 dead in iraq 100 dead in pakistan just because its not in their backyard. Im a white guy living in UK and everytime I hear that people die in these things, I take a moment to think about what it must be like, to pick up bits of your son/daughter after western forces decided your kids lunch box was a bomb.
I just think that people should not make jokes about these things. This guy was not trying to cope with something traumatic he just doesn't give a . |
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| wing |
To ease the emotions flying around in this thread, I recommend you all to check out Joyeux Noel which is based on a true story about The
Christmas Truce:
| quote: | What was the Christmas truce?
(On Christmas Eve and Christmas day, 1914, British and German forces at various places along the front met informally in no-man's land. In most places it began with each side singing carols and putting Christmas trees over their own positions. A few soldiers from each side ventured out and exchanged Christmas wishes and small presents and soon most of the soldiers on both sides were involved. Apparently in several places the trenches were empty while the opposing armies played football/soccer. Then on the 26th, they resumed shooting at each other.
There are many reports that French troops in some places also took part in the Christmas truce, although the French officially deny it. Even the British and German officers at the time officially denied that any such fraternization took place.
Most reports agree the truce started when the Germans erected their traditional Christmas trees on the parapets and began to sing carols. (The British, French and Australian commands did not supply trees to their men.) The British responded with carols of their own. Soon a truce was offered by the Germans (and accepted by the British) to bury the decaying bodies in no-man's land, left from a raid about 3 days previous. The Germans helped the British bury the dead, and some officers exchanged gifts. The Germans mostly had sausages, and cheese, from home. The British donated brandy, chocolate or tinned delicacies from home. Some of the enlisted men traded what they had. . . tins of bully beef, pocket knives, even buttons from their uniforms.
Eventually the troops went back to their trenches, although the caroling went on all night long. One German soldier, a famous opera singer, even serenaded the British troops.Many of the Germans had worked in London prior to the war, so they were able to sing in English. (The British even sang God Save the King to the Germans.)In some locations, the truce lasted throughout the following day, until the troops were rotated out. Then the fighting began again, in earnest.
The Christmas Truce is a beautiful story of the triumph of human nature over war. A great book about it to read is Silent Night: The Story of the World War I Christmas Truce, by Stanley Weintraub. |
| quote: | | The Christmas Truce is a beautiful story of the triumph of human nature over war |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
Yeah right.... I seen loads of americans making jokes about the world trade centres on sept 11th.
Fact is if these were american citizens gunned down by muslims in the centre of New York the guy woouldn't have said what he did. I am sick of people turning a blind eye to 25 dead in iraq 100 dead in pakistan just because its not in their backyard. Im a white guy living in UK and everytime I hear that people die in these things, I take a moment to think about what it must be like, to pick up bits of your son/daughter after western forces decided your kids lunch box was a bomb. |
I have the same thoughts. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| Apathy is another one of those coping mechanisms. Learn some ing empathy. |
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| Sonic_c |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
i laugh my assed off because of how bull i thought the post above mine was. honestly, if you knew me, you'd know how bothered i was by that video. there was no evidence of a single weapon in that heli-cam they were viewing. those guys needed glasses, thick ing glasses. i hate war, always will. i hate the military. i hate when people believe we need the military to keep our "freedoms". i hate a lot of things, but i respect this country for the few smart individuals and diversity of culture. i also don't know why i'm explaining myself to you |
Dude you dont have to I got you wrong I should have said sorry in the above post. Im worked up about the joking about what this video shows. I didnt realise you were laughing at 17ss post I just hip fired at you. Sorry. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
Yeah right.... I seen loads of americans making jokes about the world trade centres on sept 11th.
Fact is if these were american citizens gunned down by muslims in the centre of New York the guy woouldn't have said what he did. I am sick of people turning a blind eye to 25 dead in iraq 100 dead in pakistan just because its not in their backyard. Im a white guy living in UK and everytime I hear that people die in these things, I take a moment to think about what it must be like, to pick up bits of your son/daughter after western forces decided your kids lunch box was a bomb.
I just think that people should not make jokes about these things. This guy was not trying to cope with something traumatic he just doesn't give a . |
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
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| Scottaculous |
| Don't blame the soldiers for the tragic cost of this war. Blame the politicians who started it. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scottaculous
Don't blame the soldiers for the tragic cost of this war. Blame the politicians who started it. |
Along with a long standing policy of low-bid contracts for optical targeting systems. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by wing
To ease the emotions flying around in this thread, I recommend you all to check out Joyeux Noel which is based on a true story about The Christmas Truce:
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meh. All the Christmas truce showed that people had no problems mowing down scores of other people they were happily playing games with the day before. |
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| Sonic_c |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
You are contributing nothing to this conversation no one even lol'd at your silly picture. Just leave it, I think your still trying to get a laugh out of poking fun at my admitted over reaction (although justified in my mind) due to the fact I am so passionately against trivialising human life to the point of making jokes about this kind of thing. |
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| jupiterone |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sonic_c
Dude you dont have to I got you wrong I should have said sorry in the above post. Im worked up about the joking about what this video shows. I didnt realise you were laughing at 17ss post I just hip fired at you. Sorry. |
no problemo man, i have no issue with you, just wanted to make it clear |
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