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Canada Day/week in Toronto... (pg. 20)
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Digit ILL
There's really nothing for me to say (but of course i will) after highroller tho, he literally has the exact same opinion as I do, I don't think i could have said it better.
Lets face it, Guvernment doesn't make the same bucks off us underground minded folk that it used too.
And it IS a business, never has anyone doubted it....like I said on FB, i don't BLAME them, if I was charles and co. i'd do the exact same thing...thats a big building to fill, and the market has DEF changed slightly in the last 3 years at least.
My opinion is what it is because i'm getting old, and i SEVERELY miss the way things USED to be. Anyone that knows me knows i'm a sucker for nostalgia...
That doesnt mean they (guv) aren't alienating people tho, they are.....our bucks just dont taste the same as they tasted a few years ago.
Circa had the same mentality however, and look where it got them. They were booking the mainstream OF the mainstream....I think in time this will hurt guv, rather than help it short term, but that remains to be seen, and I dont have a business OR marketing degree to back up my opinion
The mainstream vs underground debate will never be solved one way or the other.....there's two sides to the coin.
Its just interesting to me to see who has what opinion and WHY they have said opinion.
At the end of the day, at least we're all engaged and talking.
And I'm sure the higher ups, are ALWAYS listening. |
You are completely right that they can't make the same money off of the underground market like the used to, and that the dance music market in general has changed. I don't blame them for wanting to book crowd draws such as Deadmau5, but booking a line-up like this which is 100% cheese is lazy and is very short-sighted. They could have booked at least some interesting DJs. I guess you can't blame them though because The Guv doesn't have much time left.
I guess I'm just saddened to see a club which was once forward thinking in their bookings change their focus to the cheese end of the spectrum. This line-up is as mainstream as it gets. |
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| yankeeBaby |
| quote: | Originally posted by AY STAR
sure, keep rubbing it in on me :whip: :whip: :( |
Sorry lol ;) ;)
as I read the actual thread, I can 100% see why people are so dissapointed. Its not the end of the world, like Kristina said, but people also have the right to roll their eyes at such a lineup. My eyes rolled HARD when I saw the list, and I'm not even going....thank GOD!! LOL
Hope everyone has fun on the boat cruises!! :D :stongue: |
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| Spin Laden |
you guys have supported the scene with your wallets
you've listened to the music, invited your friends, gone to the parties, downloaded the music, danced until the wee hours of the morning with utter disregard for your bodies and probably your brains too :p
You've helped shape the scene for the many involved.
You've registered yourselves on a web forum and given yourselves a platform to voice your opinions about events. So go ahead, don't hesitate to write about it if the party seems ty to you. ;) |
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| samhouse |
I won't lie...this was disappointing to say the least. Disappointing enough to stop me from buying a ticket to what has become a yearly staple in the party calendar.
On the plus side...i won't be exhausted on the calderone cruise...I will have a chance to perhaps hit up something else and enjoy another aspect of a wonderful scene here in Toronto.
As far as The Guvernment goes, why are we really surprised? They are trying to pull in that younger mainstream crowd more and more precisely because if you can't fill the mainroom or Kool haus for Paul Van Dyk and Roger Sanchez AND fedde le grand (sort of mainstream), then why not try something else. Not only will they still make loads of money, but all those "underground" fans who would usually come out to see a Lawler sunrise session will still (for the most part) come out a couple of weeks earlier. It actually makes sense if you think about it...may not be right but from their shoes it does make sense. |
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| Sasha |
all kinds of events on June 30.. noone is forcing you to go see Deadmau5 (love it or hate it, the biggest EDM figure in the world atm).
THREE boatcruises on July 1 with international headliners on 2 of them
PRIDE events on July 2, 3, and 4
TORONTO FACKEN CITY! stop complaining, go and have fun! |
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| Big Boss |
| This just means everyone will be fresh for the Calderone cruise. I talked to him Sunday at Stereo and he's really excited for it! Can't wait! |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Big Boss
This just means everyone will be fresh for the Calderone cruise. I talked to him Sunday at Stereo and he's really excited for it! Can't wait! |
hehe this what I have been thinking all along :) I've very excited about this cruise! hopefully others are too |
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| DPetey81 |
All this talk about the underground scene.. but, how was the underground underground when it wasn't underground :conf: I think we're all just aging, and music always changes. Clubs like Guv are always gonna be, at least somewhat, mainstream. It just so happens that the headliners for this particular event are about as mainstream as you can get outside of inviting Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga to do a show. Nevertheless, it's still EDM (though some might aruge:rolleyes: ) inside a world class club. Outside of Guetta, I'd agree that Joel is the biggest thing going right now, and Benassi has always had a huge following. I'll stick with my previous statement, that I have witnessed Benassi tear a place apart. Even when he hasn't, it's been an enjoyable experience. And, I don't think there's any doubt about the energy inside KH for Deadmau5. It's gonna be crazy, but if that's not your thing, like others have said, there should be no shortage of things to do. Personally, these guys aren't what I was hoping to see on the lineup, but I skipped guv my last trip up there, and this night will be more about roaming around and having a good time with good friends. And if it's not the greatest night ever (wont be) then it's of no consequence because the boats, beaches, clubs, bars, and so forth the rest of the weekend should be enough to make this another terrific trip to your city.
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| breakawayj |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
This is all correct.
I dont recall sound academy having a Canada Day party on the 30th. I know Mod Club usually does something (I think last year was Frankie Knuckles) and FW did something small. But the only BIG party was a Guv.
And dont forget comfort zone the next morning:p |
Chus and Ceballos played an after boat party there last year.... |
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| AY STAR |
| quote: | Originally posted by Big Boss
I talked to him Sunday at Stereo and he's really excited for it! Can't wait! |
all you did was talk about the boat cruise party? i would have been asking him for some track id's :toothless |
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| kaniz |
There is still an 'underground scene' in Toronto, it's just not happening at the guv. There are loads of events going on around the city that have some quality music, even events that are 100% local DJs - maybe you just try detaching yourself from the nostalgia of what the Guverment used to be and start enjoying what Toronto actually has to offer.
Milkrun has had some pretty crazy lineups latley, Promise usually throws a good party when they have them, Platform has been proving to be a solid promoter over the past few years and continues to improve. Break & Enter, Hushlamb, Tempo, AlienInFlux continue to bring in unique talent that's not recycling the same-old- for the 100th time and managing to do it in some unique spaces (and occasionally falling onto the standbys. SUMA Throws some great events that seem to fly under everyone's radar except for the 'hippieish-om' scene that has some great music and amazing vibe -- and that's just the subset of stuff going on in the city that has a direct interest to me, never mind the House, Breaks, Dubstep,Trance,etc promoters that I don't really follow very much.
Hell, looks like Sunnyside has some pretty serious sick- lined up this summer also. |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by kaniz
There is still an 'underground scene' in Toronto, it's just not happening at the guv. There are loads of events going on around the city that have some quality music, even events that are 100% local DJs - maybe you just try detaching yourself from the nostalgia of what the Guverment used to be and start enjoying what Toronto actually has to offer.
Milkrun has had some pretty crazy lineups latley, Promise usually throws a good party when they have them, Platform has been proving to be a solid promoter over the past few years and continues to improve. Break & Enter, Hushlamb, Tempo, AlienInFlux continue to bring in unique talent that's not recycling the same-old- for the 100th time and managing to do it in some unique spaces (and occasionally falling onto the standbys. SUMA Throws some great events that seem to fly under everyone's radar except for the 'hippieish-om' scene that has some great music and amazing vibe -- and that's just the subset of stuff going on in the city that has a direct interest to me, never mind the House, Breaks, Dubstep,Trance,etc promoters that I don't really follow very much.
Hell, looks like Sunnyside has some pretty serious sick- lined up this summer also. |
Sure. I've gone to many of those parties, and they're great, but it is nice to party every once in a while in one of the greatest clubs in the world while listening to some actually good music. |
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