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Programming and bookings (pg. 6)
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| KeepItMoving |
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im sorry my wirting is horrible |
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| Big Boss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Your posts are incredibly hard to read.
Punctuation is your friend. |
Skipper'd!!!! |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Big Boss
Skipper'd!!!! |
I'm just sayin'! |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| quote: | Originally posted by Big Boss
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lol I like that |
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| Anas Attia |
I can about my personal experiences
I had booked some shows with myself as a DJ in mind in 2008, generally speaking they were fun and I can say I was in demand for a while ;). During this time I had also booked as many DJs as I could fit in the time slots awarded to me as I was merely emulating "successful" systems I saw around me. We had 10 DJs on this one boat party once lol, 5 hours. Learning form my mistakes and talking to a few more people in scene I began gaining a better appreciation for longer set times just as I have learned better marketing techniques to aid in the reduction of the number of DJs.
In Toronto, unlike the few other scenes, many of the DJs are required to promote the parties they play. This was somthing I had a huge issue with, strictly dissallowing any of my DJs to do any advertising themselves. This new model worked great as the promoters and maarketing campeign were able to sustain a consistant brand and experiance to everyone alike. This also helped minimise the amount of ty advertising done by DJs, afterall thats not their job so I cannot expect results.
I think its important to consider the infulances club owners and managers have on the systems in place too. The promoter/host is often the last individual in the chain that must actualy act upon these conditions, willingly or not. And i can tell you, I hired many acts in the past I didnt want to hire.
Another very important issue, and in my oppinion a reason why the Toronto scene is not living up to potential is regarding the prodominant repetition of booked talent. Variety is the root of culutre and it seems were getting the same bucket every week. |
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| Pett |
| For me personally I prefer shorter sets generally. Our generations attention span is so short and most times 2 hours is more than enough. We've gotten to hear the monsters he/shes been dying to play and now we get to hear somebody elses. But theres so many more factors for me still; who the dj is, how well they're playing, the venue, my mood, my company, level of intoxication ect ect. |
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| The Highroller |
I prefer longer DJ sets, but not by everyone. It depends on the kind of music they play. For example, I think a 10 hour set would be better than a 3 hour set from someone like Tenaglia, but I don't think the same would necessarily ring true for someone like Marco Carola.
However, there is a serious lack of proper extended sets in Toronto recently. It seems like more than 90% of sets played in Toronto are under 3 hours. I like how 4 hour sets are now being called "extended sets". To me, a 3 or 4 hour set should be standard for any DJ set. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
I prefer longer DJ sets, but not by everyone. It depends on the kind of music they play. For example, I think a 10 hour set would be better than a 3 hour set from someone like Tenaglia, but I don't think the same would necessarily ring true for someone like Marco Carola.
However, there is a serious lack of proper extended sets in Toronto recently. It seems like more than 90% of sets played in Toronto are under 3 hours. I like how 4 hour sets are now being called "extended sets". To me, a 3 or 4 hour set should be standard for any DJ set. |
That's what I'm saying. Min at least a dj should play is 3 or 4 hours. Trance djs regularly played 4 or 5 hours (back when trance was a lot better), none of this 2 hour crap then go home. |
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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anas Attia
Another very important issue, and in my oppinion a reason why the Toronto scene is not living up to potential is regarding the prodominant repetition of booked talent. Variety is the root of culutre and it seems were getting the same bucket every week. |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
That's what I'm saying. Min at least a dj should play is 3 or 4 hours. Trance djs regularly played 4 or 5 hours (back when trance was a lot better), none of this 2 hour crap then go home. |
Trance is a genre for which short set times are acceptable, or even encouraged lol. |
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| She_Fitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
I prefer longer DJ sets, but not by everyone. It depends on the kind of music they play. For example, I think a 10 hour set would be better than a 3 hour set from someone like Tenaglia, but I don't think the same would necessarily ring true for someone like Marco Carola.
However, there is a serious lack of proper extended sets in Toronto recently. It seems like more than 90% of sets played in Toronto are under 3 hours. I like how 4 hour sets are now being called "extended sets". To me, a 3 or 4 hour set should be standard for any DJ set. |
I couldn't agree more.
Upon reflection - my wow moments this year have come out of parties where the DJs have longer sets.
The exception to this would be Paul Ritch. :) I do wonder what a 4 hour set by him would be like though. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by KeepItMoving
if your a good dj & a booker someone will book you |
I wish it were true, but talent is one of the weakest qualities for being booked these days. It's about how many people you can draw to a venue, and/or your social connections with people of influence. I hate it, but I've seen it time and time again. It varies with the size and quality of the venue, but generally the bigger the space, the more it is the rule.
| quote: | Originally posted by KeepItMoving
The partys stop & more local djs out of a job because of someone who used there postion to get ahead ruined it for everyone
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But often times a major factor for the promoter putting the party together is playing in front of a crowd, so if he wasn't playing, it wouldn't have happened either. Kind of a Catch 22 there.
To the people complaining about Nick's ruining this thread, I'd generally agree, but he is actually contributing to the discussion, and not just hitting repeat like he often does.
As for the extended set debate, I think it comes down to the DJ doing it. Some excel at it, while others get boring. Lee Burridge, Danny Howells, Tenaglia, and many others obviously excel in this area, while most have given you all they've got in 2-3 hours.
It's also relative. I remember getting spoiled on Morales nights at stereo where he'd do 12 to 18 hour marathons. He holds the record for me at 23 hours one night. After that, seeing a 4 hour set billed as "extended" means a little bit less. |
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