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Richard Butler
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Last night saw a tv documentary about the struggle of newly graduating Goldsmiths art college students.

The teacher said only 2% of them will ever make a living from art.

He then went on to say THE most important factor was thier capacity to hussle and network, and he said from each year it is those with the best sales and hussling ability that seem to make it and it wasn't necessarily the most tallented artists.

Some parallels in EDM perhaps?
-FSP-
Networking and hustling is the way to go to make money anywhere. Not to mention luck. Luck is always a factor.

I know an art student (not in the traditional fine arts, but one who does cgi) who isn't making a living off of his passion.

Most of those artists are working day jobs they hate and making art when they come home for the sake of it while living in tough neighborhoods where they aren't welcome. Then the rent goes up, and they quit the dream because they can't afford beans and rice or move somewhere else. Guess that's why Berlin is a new hot spot for artists.
music2dance2
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Originally posted by sako487
get a job, there's no money in music..


For someone that can produce some nice tracks, its a ashame to read that comment

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Originally posted by alanzo
Your English sucks. Fix that first and don't quit your day job.


Igonre fixing your english, its fine your not writing essays for an exam, that comment is plain rude!

As some have said there IS money to be made but the way to go about it will be different, sometimes the same, but its all down to how much you put into it. This goes for marketing yourself, getting gigs, making good tracks, getting your music out there, networking, trying to sign to an agency.

If there was no money then why are there people making a good living from it right now? Even if you arent hitting the big time or what ever your goals are, just playing a few gigs and continuely producing & signing your music will get you on your way, then you can move up to bigger things.

If this is something you want to do full time though a day job will be needed, until you are ready to quit that day job. To survive on just music isnt impossible, I'm not saying you couldnt but for now until you have a regular amount of gigs and signings of your releases stick with the day job. You'll know when its the right time to leave.

All I can say is let the music do the talking. When you have tracks that people like, and you can keep that going, things will happen for you, what ever direction you wish to take things. I would have to say though doing gigs is where the money is at, so its worth doing that also.
DjWoody
After DJ'ing for over 10 years, I finally started making money in 2007. A friend of mine who started DJing back in 1997, finally started making money around the same time I did. But he also started making a bunch of mashups back when the mashup craze was getting big. 3 years later, he's now touring all over. He has great networking skills and that played a huge role on him getting gigs. He also quit his part time job to make DJ'ing and producing mashups full time.

Mashups are not my thing, so I decided to not go that route. However, last year I did pick up on producing. Let's see how long it will take me now to make some money. Patience is virtue.
music2dance2
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Originally posted by DjWoody
Patience is virtue.


Amen to that!
mfitterer1
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You'll know when its the right time to leave.


Couldn't have been said better.
mfitterer1
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He has great networking skills and that played a huge role on him getting gigs.

One of the most important traits.
music2dance2
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Originally posted by mfitterer1
One of the most important traits.


Most definately. It this industry and like most its also who you know that can get you places. Having those connections will help. I used to hear that all the time when I started dj-ing years ago, its only when I saw it happening and realised it was so true.

You have to get yourelf out there in the right places, clubs, events, get to know promoters, dj's, promotion staff for events.
sako487
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Originally posted by music2dance2
For someone that can produce some nice tracks, its a ashame to read that comment


Why? I just make music for fun, never thought I would ever get money out of it.
music2dance2
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Originally posted by sako487
Why? I just make music for fun, never thought I would ever get money out of it.



Indeed, and I didnt assume you did. Its ironic that out of the many producers trying to do just that, your tracks would probably do very well from the very start.

Aesthetic
^Yep. Everyone has the pipe dream but you're a fool if you put all your eggs in one basket. I have other ventures in life so music is a hobby for me. Some dj's around here would spew their coffee up and say 'he doesn't take it seriously enough, he's not hungry'. lol.
music2dance2
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Originally posted by Aesthetic
^Yep. Everyone has the pipe dream but you're a fool if you put all your eggs in one basket. I have other ventures in life so music is a hobby for me. Some dj's around here would spew their coffee up and say 'he doesn't take it seriously enough, he's not hungry'. lol.


Thats a good point, its not easy and everything takes time so you have to have other plans.
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