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bioethics - what is morally acceptable? (pg. 2)
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woscar
Are you master of your domain, Bas?
bas
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Are you master of your domain, Bas?

I am king of my castle.
woscar
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Originally posted by bas
I am king of my castle.


Oh yeah? Well I'm Lord of the manor.
pkcRAISTLIN
Yukii is afraid a cock-cucking DNA mutation might be unleashed and she’ll catch it.

I bet krypton has bought plenty stock in that particular company.
nefardec
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Originally posted by bas
I say if cell manipulation can lead to extending human lives


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overpopulation? hunger? increased gross consumption?

dependence on multinational corporations for artificial life extension?

do you really want to have to work until you are 500?


people live long enough, and those who don't probably cant afford laboratory created genetic and biological therapies. make the most of the life you have.

this will also lead to a form of industrialized eugenics, where only the wealthy social classes (classes are racially polarized most everywhere) will be able to extend their lives.



you science fanboys... haven't you ever watched indiana jones?





pkcRAISTLIN
we all know you love hunger more than the GM food bogeyman.
nefardec
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
we all know you love hunger more than the GM food bogeyman.



you mean to say that if everyone lives twice as long, there won't be hunger?
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by nefardec
you mean to say that if everyone lives twice as long, there won't be hunger?


No, I mean to say that if hunger was such an issue for you personally, you wouldn’t be such an anti GM food hippy. Forgive me if you’re not though, but I thought it a reasonable guess.
bas
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Originally posted by nefardec
um

overpopulation? hunger? increased gross consumption?

dependence on multinational corporations for artificial life extension?

do you really want to have to work until you are 500?


people live long enough, and those who don't probably cant afford laboratory created genetic and biological therapies. make the most of the life you have.

this will also lead to a form of industrialized eugenics, where only the wealthy social classes (classes are racially polarized most everywhere) will be able to extend their lives.



you science fanboys... haven't you ever watched indiana jones?






Your argument was nice and sound until you brought Indian Jones 4 into this. I think I win. Also...Nazis...again? Bad form :p

You don't think it's worth it to understand how the world works on a subatomic level? Curing things like cancer, spinal meningitis, paralysis. Why is it that you only see the downside like overpopulation and lack of food? I don't see a problem with GM food as long as it's made in a healthy (don't know if that's the word I'm looking for) way.
nefardec
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Originally posted by bas
until you brought Indian Jones 4 into this. I think I win. Also...Nazis...again? Bad form :p


well indiana jones was a joke :p

but it does illustrate a point about the danger of the reckless pursuit of knowledge for knowledge's sake


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Originally posted by bas
You don't think it's worth it to understand how the world works on a subatomic level? Curing things like cancer, spinal meningitis, paralysis. Why is it that you only see the downside like overpopulation and lack of food? I don't see a problem with GM food as long as it's made in a healthy (don't know if that's the word I'm looking for) way.



I think there will be both good and bad things that come of it.

Like pandora's box, it came with all of the diseases and fears of the world, but also hope.

bas
And vodka. Sweet sweet vodka.

In any case, I see your point...I'm just a huge sci-fi/cyberpunk geek and the thought of being genetically altered gets me horny :o

Imagine all the that could come of something like this. It's mind blowing.
nefardec
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
No, I mean to say that if hunger was such an issue for you personally, you wouldn’t be such an anti GM food hippy. Forgive me if you’re not though, but I thought it a reasonable guess.


I am anti GM food. Do you honestly believe the people who buy GM food are starving people in India or Africa?

My primary concern isn't to end hunger, it's to limit consumption. Hunger happens with overpopulation, so it's a good point of argument.

Also, people in america don't need cheap GM food, they need to stop driving so much and buying cell phone covers.


lol
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