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bioethics - what is morally acceptable? (pg. 5)
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Theresa
If this has a potential to grow new organs, or cure various diseases... I see this as a good thing. Creating new species or creatures and trying to control them seems a little ed, but either way, I think advancement in technology and science is usually a good thing.
nefardec
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Originally posted by Theresa
If this has a potential to grow new organs, or cure various diseases... I see this as a good thing. Creating new species or creatures and trying to control them seems a little ed, but either way, I think advancement in technology and science is usually a good thing.


We're not talking about stem cells here, we're talking about engineering organisms - the classic example would be a micro organism that eats oil spills.
nefardec
addendum, and more on the ills of biotechnology:


http://news.techworld.com/personal-...dotrplant&no1x1

now imagine in the future if the virus was on a chip that controlled a pacemaker, or some augmentation or implanted communication device that becomes a standard or 'chic', like an iphone...
Kismet7
i feel chipped already :(
Lira
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Originally posted by Kismet7
i feel chipped already :(

YES< AND THEY~RE OUT TO GET YOU< RUN< RUN< RUN!!!!
Kismet7
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Originally posted by nefardec
addendum, and more on the ills of biotechnology:


http://news.techworld.com/personal-...dotrplant&no1x1

now imagine in the future if the virus was on a chip that controlled a pacemaker, or some augmentation or implanted communication device that becomes a standard or 'chic', like an iphone...


kinda how bigger boobs gets teh job done. 'chic' becomes a broader necessisty through media propaganda, as the thing to do with oneself.

not sure if you've heard of Aaron Russo, but he says the future goal of the powers that be is a chip installed in everyone's hand. interview is on youtube. who told him this? A Rockefeller. You're gonna love technology much more someday.
Kismet7
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Originally posted by Lira
YES< AND THEY~RE OUT TO CONTROL YOU< RUN< RUN< RUN!!!!


i'd tell you to run but you seem shackled already. shackled and enjoying it! eh? ;)
Lira
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Originally posted by Kismet7
i'd tell you to run but you seem shackled already. shackled and enjoying it! eh? ;)

Does not compute. The government would never want me to run away. This chip in my head tells me Obama is the great leader of the New World Order.

Hail the new leader! Hail the New World Order! Hail the Rockafellers!

Oink!
torontotrance
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Originally posted by Lira
YES< AND THEY~RE OUT TO GET YOU< RUN< RUN< RUN!!!!


My issue is that whatever technology created is whored by big medical companies. They exploit it so badly now. I understand r and d costs are thru the roof.But.....

Sir Alexander Fleming sold his discovery to a company for a dollar.

My other issue is that once you open pandora's box, you cannot close it.
Kismet7
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Originally posted by Lira
Does not compute. The government would never want me to run away. This chip in my head tells me Obama is the great leader of the New World Order.

Hail the new leader! Hail the New World Order! Hail the Rockafellers!

Oink!


Aaron Russo > Lira

Nothing else.

:p

nefardec
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Originally posted by Kismet7
not sure if you've heard of Aaron Russo, but he says the future goal of the powers that be is a chip installed in everyone's hand. interview is on youtube. who told him this? A Rockefeller. You're gonna love technology much more someday.



see this is where i definitely dont agree with you.

there are no 'powers that be'.

people themselves are the powers that be, and they control themselves by craving and consuming things.

if people didnt actually want medical devices implanted in them or wouldn't find it useful, no one would have any economic incentive to produce or research them.

no need for tinfoil hats here, it's quite simple and rational. freedom is an individual choice everyone has, at the expense of being lazy.
Kismet7
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Originally posted by nefardec
see this is where i definitely dont agree with you.

there are no 'powers that be'.

people themselves are the powers that be, and they control themselves by craving and consuming things.

if people didnt actually want medical devices implanted in them or wouldn't find it useful, no one would have any economic incentive to produce or research them.

no need for tinfoil hats here, it's quite simple and rational. freedom is an individual choice everyone has, at the expense of being lazy.


^ridiculous. in context to people being coaxed, coerced, propaganized, solicited, induced to find interest or lose interest in things. Especially, from people and mediums they have grown to trust.

Never met any sheep? i can list examples of people's choices being made for them, products being made before a demand, interest being generated without there being any to begin with. let me know if you cant think something.

In the Russo interview I speak of, he talks about the Rockefeller's (whom he was friends with) creating The Women's Liberation movement. Research that and then come back and tell me you still stand by the ridiculous post i've quoted. There are definately powers that be lol. It goes with the human nature to create tribes to protect territory, culture, resources, and interests. This tribe (gang in this case) is no different in their nature to protect their interests, territory/property, ideaologies, resource attaining and developing culture. Just look at your habits in music. You buy and download music (taking up resources), you form friendships with people with similar tasts (create a tribe), you bash other music you dont like, you're just doing what they're doin at a micro level, so why would'nt they do it at a macro level, through their power and business and resource constructed interests? We're talking about humans here.
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