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1 trillion dollars worth of untapped Raw Materia in Afghanistan not discovered by Afghanistan! (pg. 3)
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Sushipunk
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Originally posted by Kismet7
Once again, why does this intrigue you? What your saying basically is "you cant have observations/convictions about things you use yourself." Are you mad that I see the pacifier and you dont? Dont be mad, you can remove it too, once you realise it, its your choice at that point.


Are you enjoying the World Cup, so far?

;)
we_R_DNA
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
the video version lacks even less credibility than the book.


So you read the book; interesting; I never did, I just thought the video had a message even the layman would some how grasp.

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so, its your position that

-the US had knowledge of the geological riches of afghanistan
-islamic terrorists who effectively controlled a fair % of the country attacked the US
-the US invades afghanistan to build mines and pillage the metal wealth
-and then sit on their asses for 9 years not doing anything with regards to said precious metals

does that about sum it up in your world?


Not at all; I think that is you summing up your opinion on a thread I created with text in it.


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and let's not forget all the oil that the US is pillaging from iraq, which they've been very cunning in disguising by making it look like the russians are really the ones making deals:

http://en.rian.ru/business/20100131/157730220.html



I never even knew about Russia making a deal with Iraq to harvest oil. . .very interesting. . .wonder where this is going to lead

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from your own article


Technically not my article; I never wrote it; I just posted an article written by someone else.

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this, all for a war which has already cost what, near 1 trillion dollars so far? why all the time and effort- why not just have given the 1 trillion dollars to the shadow government who made the US invade afghanistan in the first place? that's 9 years of lost investment/revenue opportunity for the ones pulling the strings. not very good super-rich corporate controllers if you ask me.



hmm I didn't ask you anything interestingly enough


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prove to me that the US is getting ANY financial advantages from iraq or afghanistan that isn't dwarfed by the costs of being there in the first place.


I don't know of any Financial advantages the US is currently getting from occupying the sovereign countries Iraq and Afghanistan.

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prove to me that the US knew of this hidden metal deposit(s) back in 2001.


Have you heard of GPR?
Ground Penetrating Radar?
Do you know what the resonante frequency is of said raw material in the ground?
Did you know that elevated platforms work for GPR?

Past that corporations use GPR to map out all the resources on the planet; why stop with one area when you can cover the entire surface the Earth using satellites in space 24/7.

You have no idea I suppose

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Sounding radars: these are low-frequency (normally, HF - 3 to 30 MHz - or lower) ground-penetrating Radars, used to acquire data about the planet sub-surface structure. Thanks to their low operating frequency they can penetrate for hundred of meters, or even kilometers, below the surface. Synthetic aperture techniques are normally exploited to reduce the ground footprint (due to the low operating frequency and the small allowable antenna dimensions, the beam is very wide) and, thus, the unwanted echo from other surface objects.

The first radar sounder flown was ALSE (Apollo Lunar Sounder Experiment) on board Apollo 17 in 1972.


Technology existed in 1972 . . . It was only a matter of time before better technological for mapping the sub surface structure of the entire earth will comes out.

You'd think that any entity that has its hands in harvesting raw materia would also do their damnedest at acquiring as much data on where said raw materia is located.

That becomes very cost effective and easy when you think about utilizing Satellites in LEO which can operate for a few years then crash and burn back into orbit. Collect data destroy evidence; dropped down a few million; but the maps of data are well worth the weight in any said raw materials found in bulk.

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prove to me that you're not an absolute cretin.


this is going to take a while;

ok So

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Poor length growth is apparent as early as the first year of life. Adult stature without treatment ranges from 1 to 1.6 metres (3'4 to 5'3), depending on severity, sex and other genetic factors. Bone maturation and puberty are severely delayed. Ovulation is impeded and infertility is common.


I am taller than 1.6 metres

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I could do the +30 lives in contra on the NES back when I was just a kid; still can
I will kick your ass in the arcade games of Killer Instinct I and Killer Instinct II any day

My reflexes are fast
My thoughts even faster


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another shining example of the brilliance and successes


wait hold the up right there

What example are you referencing?

Are you seriously implying that I am this

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all-knowing, all-powerful, all-controlling agent for the world's elite shadow government.


I'm picking up some unusual beliefs emanating from your mindfields, notably near your prefrontal cortex. You seem to have misappropriated alpha and gamma oscillations. Put some clozapine in the coconut and drink it all up.
Kismet7
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
Are you enjoying the World Cup, so far?

;)


of course, and are you missing the point?

of course.
nefardec
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by we_R_DNA
So you read the book; interesting; I never did, I just thought the video had a message even the layman would some how grasp.


Only bits of it. I don’t really continue eating a sandwich once I find pieces of in it.

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Originally posted by we_R_DNA
Not at all; I think that is you summing up your opinion on a thread I created with text in it.


So, explain this for us

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Originally posted by we_R_DNA
and perhaps an underlying reason behind US involvement within that country.


exactly what role did the geology play in US foreign policy before the final invasion in November 2001? And why did this (presumably large) role only manifest itself properly after the 911 attacks? If the US is really there for the precious metals, what particular indicators do you rely upon to make this judgment?

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Originally posted by we_R_DNA
Technically not my article; I never wrote it; I just posted an article written by someone else.


You’re completely right. Man you really got me there!

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Originally posted by we_R_DNA
hmm I didn't ask you anything interestingly enough


of course, you posted this thread because you didn’t want anyone talking about it.

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Originally posted by we_R_DNA
Have you heard of GPR?
Ground Penetrating Radar?
Do you know what the resonante frequency is of said raw material in the ground?
Did you know that elevated platforms work for GPR?

Past that corporations use GPR to map out all the resources on the planet; why stop with one area when you can cover the entire surface the Earth using satellites in space 24/7.


Yeah, they use the same kinds of technology to estimate how much oil the world has left. I asked you to prove to me that the US government (or the people pulling the strings) knew that these deposits existed when planning for war in 2001. Additionally, I would like to know why such resources, being the “underlying” reason for the war according to you, are still sitting there un-exploited by the people who went there to get it, 9 years ago.

some might say the US didn't know about them until well after the invasion had begun

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Indications of the mineral deposits had been founded by the U.S. Geological survey in aerial surveys in 2006 and returned in 2007 to make a more intensive study. But their findings were not pursued until two years later when a Pentagon business development task force was transferred to Afghanistan and came upon the data.

Times said, the challenges posed by the discovery range from giving the Taliban a greater inducement to fight for control of the country to developing a mining industry under a government already riddled by corruption.


http://today24news.com/business/1-t...ghanistan-14706

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Originally posted by we_R_DNA

wait hold the up right there

What example are you referencing?

Are you seriously implying that I am this


Dude, you’ve invented your own conspiracy theory and as part of the general discussion about it, you’ve provided an example of the nefarious activities of the CIA, which includes portraying a gay saddam. Im just pointing out how ing stupid your example is, within the context of your ‘US invaded Afghanistan for pretty metals’ position...as if pointing out how dumb the CIA can be is a reason to believe in the all-powerful and all-knowing government you portrayed in your OP.
leph555
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Originally posted by nefardec


YES
FuzzQi
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Originally posted by nefardec


I'm intrigued as to what the hand does
idoru
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Originally posted by Kismet7
Hey guys, check out what Mommy made for Mrs. Bigglessworth and I after supper last night! Aren't they awesome!?

Kismet7
Idoru...you stealing pictures from Robert Babicz?

ya CREEP.

:p
w_ashley
This is such a pile of BS

They go to say it was discovered by Americans etc... yet it was soviet geologists who unearthed this when Afghanistan was a Soviet Republic getting Soviet Advisory aid.

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2004, American geologists, sent to Afghanistan as part of a broader reconstruction effort, stumbled across an intriguing series of old charts and data at the library of the Afghan Geological Survey in Kabul that hinted at major mineral deposits in the country. They soon learned that the data had been collected by Soviet mining experts during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but cast aside when the Soviets withdrew in 1989


It was already known.


old charts and data at the library of the Afghan Geological Survey

how is this an American discovery?

This is right up there with junk claiming Columbus "discovered" America. Total BS.

idoru
Your own quote says "hinted", which leads a reader to believe that there wasn't enough solid information in the data you're discussing to make a a hard statement in support of its existence.
w_ashley
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Originally posted by idoru
Your own quote says "hinted", which leads a reader to believe that there wasn't enough solid information in the data you're discussing to make a a hard statement in support of its existence.


Afghans knew what they ment

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Afghan geologists protected the charts by taking them home, and returned them to the Geological Survey’s library only after the American invasion
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