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Union Jack - Vuvuzelas (pg. 6)
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
I just read a fairly long interview with the guy who invented the vuvezela. It made me laugh for a number of reasons, number one being how serious of an "instrument" he thinks it is. |
Ha! The thing plays just one note. |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
I just read a fairly long interview with the guy who invented the vuvezela. It made me laugh for a number of reasons, number one being how serious of an "instrument" he thinks it is. |
What made me laugh the most throughout the WC is how people are ripping their clothes and hair off in fury over a plastic horn. That is hilarious. |
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| pointPi |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
What made me laugh the most throughout the WC is how people are ripping their clothes and hair off in fury over a plastic horn. That is hilarious. |
HIGH FIVE!
That's what I thought too. Seriously, the sound is not that annoying. There are more annoying sounds like scratching a fork on a chalkboard, putting a microphone next to a speaker it's connected to or listening to Nickelback after the lead singer swallowed an entire sandbox. |
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| Xiolii |
| vuvuzdelas is a disgrace to south africa 'traditions', its has nothing to do with its tradition as it was invented very recently and has no deep connection whatsoever with the 'tradition of africa'.. africa's tradition is bush meat.. its best gift to this planet. |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xiolii
vuvuzdelas is a disgrace to south africa 'traditions', its has nothing to do with its tradition as it was invented very recently and has no deep connection whatsoever with the 'tradition of africa'.. africa's tradition is bush meat.. its best gift to this planet. |
All traditions are born somehow and somewhere. Your tradition to eat a turkey and cranberry sauce was not invented 1000 years ago. |
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| Xiolii |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
All traditions are born somehow and somewhere. Your tradition to eat a turkey and cranberry sauce was not invented 1000 years ago. |
A tradition is something which has been time tested over several generations.. vuvu came in 2002, new cheaper knockoff of imported beers are more traditional than blowing vuvu like a deaf and blind person. |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
And while I'm ranting, this is about far more than just one boring track. It's about the entire mentality of the trance scene. I'm sick of "proper trance" fans who have absolutely nothing to offer, listen to nothing outside their genre, think combining progressive house and psy-trance in a DJ set is highly eclectic and praise music by saying "It's still better than anything made since 1998" because they're too regressive to look for new music. And then when someone criticises a track the only riposte they can think of is "You must like Armin and Tiesto" because in their tunnel-vision little trance world, those are the options. |
Do you really believe this? While I don't doubt that there are a large number of trance fans that fit your description, this to me is a wildly inaccurate generalisation. I do agree that there is a lot of unnecessary music out there but that's definitely not just trance.
It's interesting and exciting when an innovative sound comes along but you can't seriously expect that with everything that comes out, and dismiss it as crap if it's not. I mean why re-invent the wheel? |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xiolii
A tradition is something which has been time tested over several generations.. vuvu came in 2002, new cheaper knockoff of imported beers are more traditional than blowing vuvu like a deaf and blind person. |
I doubt that the vuvuzela will die out in South Africa after the WC. It was used even in the confederation cup last summer. I can't see why it wouldn't become an arena tradition in South Africa.
The brazilians have their drums at football matches. |
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| Xiolii |
| It might and it might not die out, but its definitely not a 'tradition' of Africa. Bush Meat, Scamming, Hunting, Scavenging, Slavery, being Clueless, Drums, Bright colorful clothes, Beaded hair, Beads on head, animal parts on necklace, amazing sandals to wear .. strength and honesty have been a tradition of Africa, not Vuvu from 2002. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teezdalien
Do you really believe this? While I don't doubt that there are a large number of trance fans that fit your description, this to me is a wildly inaccurate generalisation. |
Of course I don't believe every trance fan is like that, but it is clearly a trend amongst a certain type of snobby, small-minded, regressive trance fan who calls their music "proper" and sneers at ASOT fans. And every trait I have mentioned there is something I've heard people say on this forum. They add up to a collective mindset.
| quote: | | It's interesting and exciting when an innovative sound comes along but you can't seriously expect that with everything that comes out, and dismiss it as crap if it's not. I mean why re-invent the wheel? |
I don't expect that with everything. Don't be ridiculous. It's not like this is the third track Simon Berry or Paul Brogden have made that sounds like this. It's perfectly reasonable to be critical of an artist that is making the same thing they did to death 15 years ago.
More importantly, it's right to be critical when people are praising this track, people who constantly, endlessly criticise modern trance music for being "generic" and lacking in ideas, people who bitch there's no good trance being made anymore. When the knowledgable fans don't want to hear new, they want to hear old... your scene is ed, it's dead. And yet these people have the utter temerity to sneer at the new kids who don't know any better. |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Of course I don't believe every trance fan is like that, but it is clearly a trend amongst a certain type of snobby, small-minded, regressive trance fan who calls their music "proper" and sneers at ASOT fans. And every trait I have mentioned there is something I've heard people say on this forum. They add up to a collective mindset.
I don't expect that with everything. Don't be ridiculous. It's not like this is the third track Simon Berry or Paul Brogden have made that sounds like this. It's perfectly reasonable to be critical of an artist that is making the same thing they did to death 15 years ago.
More importantly, it's right to be critical when people are praising this track, people who constantly, endlessly criticise modern trance music for being "generic" and lacking in ideas, people who bitch there's no good trance being made anymore. When the knowledgable fans don't want to hear new, they want to hear old... your scene is ed, it's dead. And yet these people have the utter temerity to sneer at the new kids who don't know any better. |
I like this response! Spot on. |
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| Xiolii |
I would tell you guys what the problem with vuvuzela is, I was their in South Africa for this Brazil Vs. Chile match.. as I was approaching the venue from the parking lot all these vuvuzela hawkers coakxed my ass to buy vuvuzela from them, i resisted, but by the time I reached the gate it was too much and i paid them few bucks in their own currency to get rid of them and they shoved this big vuvuzela on my face.
I was like 'ok'... but after i entered the venue, everyone else were so pissed at these vuvuzela hawkers, that they were blowing vuvuzela to protest these vuvuzela hawkers, .... so i blew it up too.. in loud protest against these vuvuzela hawkers!!! |
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