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WMC 2011 Dates Announced - March 8-12 - Ultra March 25-27 - wtf? (pg. 10)
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| Nerologic |
| quote: | Originally posted by dorkiedanny
mayweather is definitely hiding now. |
Only place he will be hiding is in prison for smacking up his girl and threatening his children... |
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| Koolaid74 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nerologic
THIS will happen. THAT will never happen after Mayweather saw what Pac did to Margarito!
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You think? There's too much money to be made for this fight to NOT happen.
I don't know the whole story but it sounded as if each camp was making excuses not to fight whenever some progress is made. I also heard that Mayweather is waiting for Pacquiao to start slowing down, but how long can he wait? Isn't Mayweather older? |
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| gypsygirl |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cool1g
i think its so close (relatively speaking) to March that people that would consider moving dates in the future are locked in now for late March... that's the biggest issue here.... why spring this on everyone 4 months before.... most big conferences are confirmed 6 months or more beforehand.... i gotta put the blame on the WMC guys for this more than anyone... |
i kinda feel the same way, why change it now when so many people have made plans, etc? the right thing to have done is if they wanted to change the dates start promoting it this WMC for next year 2012, not 4 months out :( |
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| mar46017 |
| [EDITOR'S NOTE: Since the publishing of this article, the City of Miami Beach told MTV News that Puig's comment on the permitting issues is not accurate. "Special event permit approvals are not based on whether the event occurs during Winter Music Conference," said Max Skylar, director of Tourism and Cultural Development.] |
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| Shafer8 |
He has many valid points
To all my Industry colleagues...
Why do people feel that they must pick sides (WMC or Ultra)? I mean, why can't we all work together and produce two great music weekends? Ibiza does six months with basically the same talent headlining the same clubs on the same nights every week so why can't we help Miami do the same for two weeks in March? As a club owner, Miami resident and 35 year supporter of EDM, I am asking you to please help us make WMC 2011 the best it can be for our City, our employees, artists, agents, managers, and everyone involved in our industry.
The fact is that Winter Music Conference which was started 26 years ago is now way too big to be held in just one weekend. While others see this split (WMC vs UMF) as a problem I see it as a great opportunity for us all to produce more events, host our industry proper and take things to the next level. As I mentioned before, every week there is a new group of fans arriving in Ibiza and every week basically repeats itself with the same talent performing on the same days and at the same clubs. Therefore, there really is no reason why the same DJs that play Ultra weekend on the last week of March can't play clubs the second week of March. Miami will also have two very different groups of people on these two weeks. WMC will bring the EDM Industry folks, Spring Breakers and the adult clubbers and UMF will keep bringing the festivalites (ravers). It just makes sense that we all take advantage of this opportunity as there are enough EDM fans around the world to pack Miami all year long. There is also no reason why there should not be a proper festival on each weekend but this is something for next year’s drama and the topic of another Email.
As for this whole Ultra DJ "exclusivity" issue, I am for exclusivity as long as its for the same type of competition. Clubs don't compete with Ultra, they don't even operate at the same times so why not let the artists play at clubs? This Ultra “exclusivity” crap is hurting the artist and the adult nightlife as no adult I know can stand being at a rfestival for more than two hours or going for more than one day. They also cannot stand sweating, getting trampled by the masses, dancing on dirt and or mud and using those disgusting port-o-porties (specially the ladies). Not to mention that there is no valet parking and you have to walk miles to get there and back, there are no proper bars or VIPs and the liquor if you can find it, is . This is a lot to ask of an educated EDM loving adult clubber just so that they can see their favorite DJs perform for just one hour. I don't know about you but if I am going to see my favorite DJ I want it to be in an air conditioned venue with proper parking, bars, VIPs, rest rooms, a proper dance floor and for much more than just 1 or 2 hours. Call me crazy but that is just me and I am sure many of WMC attendees and EDM music lovers feel the same way too. Then there are the folks who are not into festivals and raves and those who have to work during the day and can't make the festival or can't affordd paying $175 US. Unfortunately, Ultra does not share this view and they want DJs to only play at Ultra and nowhere else. So much for music democracy. I am sorry but this type of monopolizing exclusivity just does not sit right with me.
I believe it is time for us all to think out of the box. 11 years ago I thought way out of the box, left the safety of South Beach nightlife and opened Club Space in what was then a desolate and dangerous part of town. 26 years ago Bill Kelley created Wnter Music Conference which gave the Ultra creators a chance to create a festival 14 years later. Let's all think outside the box and see how we can make WMC better and greater than it has been. We have a great and rare opportunity to expand our industry and our culture and at the same time benefit from more days of clubbing, pool parties, beaches, gigs, dates, meetings and conferences. I for one can never get enough of any of these. Let’s all take advantage of these two weekend's and help make this year’s WMC and ULM the best ever. Below are some facts that might help shed some extra light on this…
WMC vs MC THE FACTS
• Ultra is a weekend event. If people just come to Miami on the weekend we will lose Wednesday, Thursday and Friday events. This hurts us all (less club nights = less gigs).
• WMC is a 5 day event (Wednesday thru Sunday) which means more work and fun for us all.
• Ultra and WMC had a contract to do their events during WMC dates. Ultra pulled out and decided to do their own dates.
• South Beach and Miami hotels are crowded with the Sonny Ericsson tennis matches and other events on the last week of March. Hotels are packed. Changing to the second week of March makes conference and hotels more affordable for everyone. Lower demand = lower prices.
• Not everyone can take their vacation in late March as Spring Break is over by then.
• There is a big festival (Timewarp) in Amsterdam in the beginning of April which might affect DJs and fans coming to Miami on the last week of March.
• Ultra can only go until 11 PM or midnight so only place an adult can see "exclusive" Ultra DJs before midnight.
• It always rains in Miami. If we have a bad rain storm and Ultra is shut down no one will get to see the "exclusive" DJS. So much for all that money you spent and your vacation.
• Adults are not into being pushed around in crowded fields or dancing in mud for hours. They like the comfort of a nightclub.
• Ultra can still move their dates to WMC weekend as they have the park reserved for all of March.
• Monopolies are not only illegal; they are also not good for anyone. The more competition, the lower the prices.
• Most important of all is that there would not be Ultra without WMC.
Please feel free to forward this to all your lists and thank you for your support.
Louis Puig
Owner, Club Space |
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| CHEMISTRY |
| You did see the letter the same individual released slamming Ultra for their greed? Now he's taking it back and coming out with this correction? :stongue: |
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| DjWoody |
He does have many valid points. If you think about it, a lot of good pool parties & boat parties sometimes are on the weekend, with the exception of all the big ones that are on Thursday. That means that people will have to choose between Ultra & the daytime events anyway. So we're back to square one. IMO, they should just let Ultra keep it's kids. WTF is this? A custody battle?
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| Neonbeats |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHEMISTRY
You did see the letter the same individual released slamming Ultra for their greed? Now he's taking it back and coming out with this correction? :stongue: |
He has resorted to begging! Pathetic! Hahahah |
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| Neonbeats |
| Also none of his points are valid. |
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| hellosam |
| he goes back and fourth in this letter and his points so much that i need to step back and catch my balance again...... |
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| bigsnail |
| he just wants to make sure his club is rammed both weeks. end of story. |
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| modthispny |
i've never been and don't really plan on going to Miami during these events but i would have no problem with the split as long as dj's can still play at WMC.
club set > massive w a bunch of db's. |
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