Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Meanwhile in China...
They banned this? It was on during the elections.
Omega_Blue
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Originally posted by The17sss
shut the up with the racial injustices... lol. There are a ton of people in positions they don't deserve to be in specifically because they're black or latino.
don't take "anyone" too literal... of course there are disabled and mentally ill that can't. I am 100% in favor of giving assistance to anyone who truly can't help themselves. However, I firmly believe that if you're able bodied, you don't deserve 150 weeks of unemployment checks. That is some ing horse. The vast majority of people, if they apply themselves, can make something of their lives with the opportunities available in this country.
to the people arguing against kevin in regards to the unemployment situation- i agree with kevin.
when you're guaranteed free money, a LOT of it, where is your incentive to look for a job? there isn't.
i'm not proud of it, but i'm collecting unemployment, and honestly, i'm not in a hurry to start working again. and i get paid the max- way more than is needed to survive. and it's coming up on 2 years, on-and-off, for me. that's insane (obviously i'm not complaining though).
it's true what kevin says- the vast majority of people, if they apply themselves, can find SOME job SOMEWHERE, of course depending on certain situations and with certain exceptions. most people i know who are collecting have no ambition whatsoever to find a job, even though they're out there if you look. because again, what's the incentive when you're getting paid almost as much as what you were making before you were let go?
you have to realize that if you are a TOTAL piece of and haven't worked AT ALL, you CANNOT collect unemployment; you need to work a certain amount of hours for a certain period of time before you're eligible. it took me a couple years of working 40+ hours at $16.00 before i was able to collect the max amount of unemployment. the people who have held a job that long, at around that pay rate, obviously have the experience and skills necessary for whatever field- therefore, they should have much less of a problem finding, competing for, and ultimately getting a job than say, the crackhead dropout with no skills or work experience. those in that category aren't the unfortunate victims of circumstance (or perhaps they were at first), they're just in' lazy. myself included.
being that the economy is stabilizing, the correct action in regards to unemployment, in my opinion, is to cut the length of time down drastically. they're in the process of doing that now- wisconsin just did it since unemployment went under 10%. i guarantee wisconsin's unemployment rate is going to go down ever further once the cuts are implemented because all the lazy s who were collecting their free money now actually have the incentive to get a job.
Silky Johnson
Do you think that "free money" is the only reason people have no ambition?
Omega_Blue
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
Do you think that "free money" is the only reason people have no ambition?
no, of course not; but it's certainly a sizeable factor for a majority of able americans who choose not to bother to look for work. again there are always certain situations and exceptions to everyone. i don't claim to know everyone's motivations, i'm merely sharing my observations from the people that i do know, and my logic on why those people in the category i explained are still collecting unemployment instead of working.
Silky Johnson
Yes well, again, it's better to have than to have not.
Omega_Blue
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
Yes well, again, it's better to have than to have not.
totally, but my stance is that those benefits are for emergencies and those less fortunate, but is too easily exploited. i didn't exactly read the entirety of kevin's argument- is he arguing against unemployment insurance benefits PERIOD?
another solution would be stricter guidelines in regards to eligibility for benefits- for example, those that are fired in WI have to contact at least two employers per week; however, the unemployment adjudicators don't actually follow through with ensuring that citizens do so. all they do during the automated questionnaire is ask if you did it ("yes") and that's all. it's shockingly too easy.
again, i can't complain though, because i'm livin' the gravy life at the moment. BD
Joss Weatherby
As long as the unemployed are able to consume then they are not a dredge on society.
Omega_Blue
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
As long as the unemployed are consuming then they are not a dredge on society.
fixed (if i understand your meaning)
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by Omega_Blue
fixed (if i understand your meaning)
Thats the same thing... :p
The17sss
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Originally posted by Lews
You are white and male, correct? And living in America? You're privileged like a mother****** and you don't even know it.
LOL! Yeah tell that to my buddy who didn't get a job at the Post Office with a top qualifying test score because they had to make room at the top and fill up the minority quota.
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
And I bet his mother (or father) never had to go to a food bank or soup kitchen while he was growing up. Unless they did, in which case I must admit I quite enjoy the taste of my own foot. :o
Thank god no... but they both worked long hours to make ends meet.
