Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
its too repetitive to be entertaining for long
I could easily say the same about the relentless start-stop stadium trance nonsense that makes up more than half of Oakenfold's EM world tour.
But hey, whatever floats your boat.
stevö
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I saw both Caribou and Actress live at the Warehouse Project in Manchester a couple of months ago, and several thousand people were having little problem dancing to them.
Also: this criticism is coming from the guy who claims to play ing footwork?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! check out the guy in the plaid shirt in the front:
SYSTEM-J
Your argument rests on one guy crushed up against a rail at the front. Compelling.
ken_lee
hardhouse will resurrect! the rebirth of tony de vit.
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by Sand Leaper
I could easily say the same about the relentless start-stop stadium trance nonsense that makes up more than half of Oakenfold's EM world tour.
But hey, whatever floats your boat.
Yea, all EDM is annoyingly repetitive, most people look at us odd that we can stand any of it at all (of any genre of it).
I don't know, its probably the time spacing of in dubstep, the slower elements seem, or if they lack melody they tend to grate on me more. Big repeating stabs of bass sounds or stuff that your mind can't start to acclimate to just get the on my nerves. I have too much time to think between elements and loss attention. :p
Rodri Santos
i find dubstep a genre to juggle around, a dubstep section on house,trance,techno... i am planning a trance production with a dubstep instead of a breakdown, should be different but 2 hours of it must get depressing, the vibe it creates reminds me a bit to hip hop , everytime i imagine people dancing to dubstep people with hoods appear in my mind.
stevö
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Your argument rests on one guy crushed up against a rail at the front. Compelling.
that's fair, but hey you're free to post a vid of yourself showing us how to rock out to caribou. and your right my genre name is too vague, because it would describe any dance music that gets discovered and written about. maybe instead call it "resident advisor" music.
holy crap, just looked at RA's top albums of 2010 after typing that and lo and behold the top 2 are caribou and flying lotus and actress at number 4. you'll just have to take my word for it that i didnt look that up before describing it as "ra music". but i dont think thats hard to believe anyway because its easy to guess what ra writers get excited about.
look, i agree with you its limiting to think in terms of genres when it comes to innovation, but theres an ugly flip side to that coin. the tracks need to be functional on a dance floor. its way too easy to be experimental with percussion patterns overlayed with sounds that journalists have a fetish for. it ends up being stoner coffee table music instead of club music. and to my ears anyway, the experimental aspect seems forced rather than happening as a beautiful accident. oh man, i can see it now: first it was you have to be a producer before dj, soon you will have to be an experimental producer before dj. wait, that's happening already, thus the term i used "ra music".
floyd741
In the year 3000 people will say that trance was better in the 90s.
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by floyd741
In the year 3000 people will say that trance was better in the 90s.
The 2990s, that is.
Zyklon_Jay
most songs will have a kick.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by stevö
holy crap, just looked at RA's top albums of 2010 after typing that and lo and behold the top 2 are caribou and flying lotus and actress at number 4. you'll just have to take my word for it that i didnt look that up before describing it as "ra music". but i dont think thats hard to believe anyway because its easy to guess what ra writers get excited about.
Why do you think I mentioned those particular albums when listing "talked about" music? As in: they're at the height of trendiness at the moment. Those LPs probably sold a lot more copies than any 12" this year. When people look back at 2010 in electronic music, those records will come up in discussion.
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look, i agree with you its limiting to think in terms of genres when it comes to innovation, but theres an ugly flip side to that coin. the tracks need to be functional on a dance floor. its way too easy to be experimental with percussion patterns overlayed with sounds that journalists have a fetish for.
You're making a completely false opposition. Something can elude generic categorisation and still have a massive beat underneath it. An older example would be Orbital - most of Orbital's work does not fit any genre, but nobody who's ever seen Orbital live would say they aren't danceable.
The problem is not that genreless music is not dancefloor friendly. More accurately it isn't DJ friendly. Dance music has so many genres and sub-genres and endless pigeonholes because they give information to DJs - they tell a DJ that all the music inside this little category can be mixed together. They're pockets of compatible structure, tempo, rhythm and mood. You can still have, and still dance to genreless dance music. Notably, most of the examples I've mentioned all play live PAs rather than release club singles. Live PAs and live shows can work perfectly well on a dancefloor and have done for decades.
floyd741
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
The 2990s, that is.
