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Rep. Gabrielle Giffords reportedly shot point blank in head (pg. 8)
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
If you want to completely break it down, the differences between Republicans and Democrats are basically a disagreement over the amount of influence the government should have. Violence should have nothing to do with it. |
That's the ideal, but the execution, as usual, is far different because there is an identity involved. What I mean is, American politics are obviously a very, very warped version of these philosophies, where every event is snatched in the ensuing clamour by an electoral agenda sure to provide underhanded incentives for each respective office. It's really not even about the individuals elected, but the party as a whole, as though we're not participating in any sort of democracy no matter how experimental it may be, but the unwilling civic casualties of germ warfare.
ATTACK! KILL! DESTROY! |
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| ziptnf |
"I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out of him. Is this wrong?" --Glenn Beck, May 17, 2005
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com...rnal-rage-radio
This shouldn't be a Democrat vs Republican issue. This should be an American issue. Why in the do we need to use violence in any way to prove a point? |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| Well, we're humans, for one. Why do we have to have sex when artificial insemination is possible, and far safer, these days? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Well, we're humans, for one. Why do we have to have sex when artificial insemination is possible, and far safer, these days? |
Because in vitro fertilisation doesn't produce oxytocin. |
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| Jackson |
| Just on a study break and got thinking, when watching the news earlier, they had a 5 minute piece on the 9 year old girl that was shot and killed, and prior to that 10 mins on the other 5 people that were killed...half of the 30 minute show was focused on the shooting. Yet, not a single second was used to talk about the 77 people killed in the Iranian plane crash. Almost 13 times as many people killed due to human fault (maintenance)...just seems strange to me, but still (and no offence is meant by this) I guess the death of a 9 year old white girl is more relatable to the general public. |
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| Lira |
Like I said on Facebook: I'm angry. Going on a shooting spree is bad. Killing a 9-year-old girl is outrageous. But not reading a bleeding linguistics book or even an introduction to philosophy of language is bang out of order! :mad:
| quote: | Jared Lee Loughner note reveals aim to assassinate Gabrielle Giffords
Investigators are examining whether far-right organisations played a role in Tucson shooting that killed six people
A note written by Jared Lee Loughner ahead of his shooting rampage in Tucson appears to show that he made careful preparations to assassinate Gabrielle Giffords, the Arizona congresswoman gravely wounded in the attack that also killed six other people.
The existence of the note is revealed in court papers filed after Loughner, 22, was charged on Sunday with murder and attempted assassination. The FBI document says that on an envelope Loughner wrote "I planned ahead", "My assassination" and "Giffords". He then signed the note.
The envelope was kept in a safe at Loughner's home alongside a letter from Giffords in 2007 thanking him for attending an earlier open air constituency meeting of the kind he attacked on Saturday.
The papers also reveal that Loughner bought the semi-automatic Glock pistol six weeks ago.
Giffords, 40, is in a critical condition after being shot in the head at close range. Loughner is expected to appear in court later today as the FBI continues to try to establish a motive for the attack.
The FBI director, Robert Mueller, who travelled to Tucson, Arizona, to take charge of the investigation, said that one focus of the inquiry is whether far-right organisations and websites played a role.
"The ubiquitous nature of the internet means that not only threats, but hate speech and other inciteful speech is much more readily available to individuals than quite clearly it was eight or 10 or 15 years ago," he said.
Investigators are exploring suspected links between Loughner and an online publication known for its strongly anti-immigrant stance, American Renaissance. It has denied any links to the accused killer.
The Southern Poverty Law Centre, one of America's leading trackers of hate crimes, said there are signs in some of Loughner's writings of far-right influence. Mark Potok, the director of research on hate groups at the centre, drew attention to Loughner's online ramblings that reject the US currency.
"At one point, Loughner refers disparagingly to 'currency that's not backed by gold or silver'. The idea that silver and gold are the only 'constitutional' money is widespread in the anti-government 'Patriot' movement that produced so much violence in the 1990s," he said.
Potok said the Patriot movement believes that paper money issued by the government is not legal tender. He said there were also clues to Loughner's thinking in his internet postings in which he accused the government of "mind control on the people by controlling grammar".
Potok said that fits with the theory of a Patriot conspiracy theorist who claims that the government uses grammar to "enslave" Americans.
On Loughner's first encounter with Giffords, at a constituency event in 2007, he is reported to have asked her: "How do you know words mean anything?"
A former friend told the Wall Street Journal that he became "aggravated" when Giffords responded in Spanish before moving on with the meeting.
Other organisations monitoring extremist groups have noted that Loughner spoke despairingly of a "second American constitution", a reference used by some extreme rightwingers to post-civil war constitutional amendments that ended slavery and gave former slaves citizenship.
"One thing that seems clear is that Giffords, who was terribly wounded but survived, was the nearest and most obvious representative of 'the government' that Loughner could find. Another is that he likely absorbed some of his anger from the vitriolic political atmosphere in the United States in general and Arizona in particular," said Potok.
Acquaintances of Loughner have related hearing him rant about issues such as the national currency and language control.
Lynda Sorenson, 52, who attended a community college algebra class with Loughner last year, wrote emails to friends describing him causing disruption and expressing fears that he might be dangerous.
"We do have one student in the class who was disruptive today, I'm not certain yet if he was on drugs (as one person surmised) or disturbed. He scares me a bit. The teacher tried to throw him out and he refused to go, so I talked to the teacher afterward. Hopefully he will be out of class very soon, and not come back with an automatic weapon," Sorenson wrote on 1 June.
A fortnight later, Sorenson said of Loughner: "We have a mentally unstable person in the class that scares the living crap out of me. He is one of those whose picture you see on the news, after he has come into class with an automatic weapon. Everyone interviewed would say, 'Yeah, he was in my math class and he was really weird.' I sit by the door with my purse handy. If you see it on the news one night, know that I got out fast …"
Loughner was later asked to leave the class.
Giffords's doctors say her chances of survival are good but have not said how complete her recovery will be. One of her surgeons, Dr Peter Rhee, has experience as a military doctor in Afghanistan and Iraq.
"I never thought I would experience something like this in my own backyard," he said. |
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"How do you know words mean anything?"!? Read a book and bugger off, you tard! |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | | Potok said that fits with the theory of a Patriot conspiracy theorist who claims that the government uses grammar to "enslave" Americans. |
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God.
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| Moongoose |
| Cant remember but since the dude was all about controlling people wtih grammar, did he list Snow Crash as one of his favourite books? If not he should totally read it it will blow his mind...before the state of arizona blows his mind for him that is, he is getting a death penalty after all. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| kind of looks like ted promo :wtf: |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
You're right, Kevin, Democrats have used targets as well and it's equally despicable. |
I actually don't think either side using target maps is despicable; for one, campaign battle metaphors have been going on for decades, everyone knows exactly what they mean and nobody takes them literally. Should we lambaste Bill Clinton for famously coining the term "War Room" to describe the White House epicenter of information? No. The lunatic is AZ would have popped off sooner or later on his own accord and it has nothing to do with the "political climate" that has been this way for over 200 years in this country. I think people who are 20-30 years old forget that things happened before they were born; when Oswald blasted JFK, before the details came out that he was an admitted Communist who recently returned from being re-educated in Moscow, the exact same things were being written from the shameless media that his killing was the result of, you guessed it, a "climate of hate" by "right wing extremists" bent on "uprooting a Democrat president". Same different day. People were crazy then, and they are crazy today... how about we blame the goddamn person who had been writing about the Congresswoman since 2007 instead of everyone else? There was no Palin or Tea Party in 2007.
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
You tell a crazy person that the government is out to get them and it doesn't matter which side they might lean, its a dangerous thing to say. The government is not out to get anyone, unless they deserve it (and sadly, they were NOT out to get this guy, because he got away with killing all those people).
The guy was obviously obsessed with the idea that his constitutional rights were being taken away and that he couldn't trust money anymore because it wasn't backed by gold (both sentiments of your radical right wing) and that seemed to be what obsessed him the last few weeks prior to this attack. |
You are making the tried and true mistake of trying to assign rational thinking to an irrational person. He obviously didn't have the rational, mental capacity to have an honest and understanding debate about Constitutional rights or the gold standard. What, did he hold such debates in front of his makeshift Satanic shrine or with his math professor who just spoke on TV saying he would wring his hands, laugh incessantly in class for no reason, and write "milk + bread+ eggs = math" on his test paper?
| quote: | | If you do not think that the right wing has taken a more and more violent tone since 2006 then you are living in a hidey hole cave just like bin Laden. |
Now I think you're clinically insane. It's official. But I understand- you have a template/narrative to follow and the facts don't matter. Actually, this kind of helps clarify some things with you a bit...
| quote: | NEW SCIENTIST:
08 January 2011
HAVING a larger waistline may shrink your brain.
Obesity is linked to an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, which is known to be associated with cognitive impairment. So Antonio Convit at the New York University School of Medicine wanted to see what impact obesity had on the physical structure of the brain. He used magnetic resonance imaging to compare the brains of 44 obese individuals with those of 19 lean people of similar age and background.
He found that obese individuals had more water in the amygdala - a part of the brain involved in eating behaviour. He also saw smaller orbitofrontal cortices in obese individuals, important for impulse control and also involved in feeding behaviour (Brain Research, in press). "It could mean that there are less neurons, or that those neurons are shrunken," says Convit.
Eric Stice at Oregon Research Institute, Eugene, thinks that the findings strengthen the "slippery slope" theory of obesity. "If you overeat, it appears to result in neural changes that increase the risk for future overeating," he says. Obesity is associated with a constant, low-level inflammation, which Convit thinks explains the change in brain size. |
http://www.newscientist.com/article...ref=online-news
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| yukii |
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| kadomony |
| people are such barbarians! i feel like we're living in 992,678,649,235,448,840 BCE! |
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