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Why Los Angeles attracts so many ravers (pg. 2)
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| DanceSafe |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonmitz
did you get permission from the artists to play >30 second audio clips?
what is with all the trash rolling into TA, posting one thread, and P outting? been happening a lot recently |
They said I can go ahead and edit my film with their songs in it but official approval won't be granted until they see the final cut. |
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| Tosh |
| quote: | Originally posted by DanceSafe
LOL it's definitely not a promo for In$omniac. No promoters would even talk to me for this film cuz it's covering such a controversial topics (full trailer below).
Besides, I think the opinions of the attendees are far more important than the promoters. They're the ones spending money and traveling to experience the events in LA. They make the scene what it is.
http://youtu.be/Qju_CxlT2B4 |
I am less sold after watching this.
Don't let the guys in here scare you either. Most people in here are very callused and jaded (and hate ravers, kandi kids, and trance).
On the other hand, I can't say I disagree completely, and Dave is right about 99% of the time. |
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| DanceSafe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tosh
I am less sold after watching this.
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Less sold on what, specifically? |
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| RedSeptember |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
The overall question is ridiculous. It's simply where the big massives are. Outside of Ultra, until recently didn't have HUGE massives like you had until the last few years, most of the big massives occured in California, most in SoCal. Duh. Yes, there were others, but the big ones have been here. And it's not like they are all new. Why did it suddenly start attracting people the last few years? The weather? When has that changed. The space? Hasn't really changed either. It's just there's more massive events, withfar more intense promotion. Plus there's the INTERNET.
There was a big scene back in the late 90s, too. And it could've gotten massive like it is now in SoCal if the local authorities didn't suppress the ability to have them after a couple incidents...then the dot-bomb occured as soon as things were recovering from that (didn't TAO '99 or 2000 have like 100,000+ people. When it was in the Coliseum.)
BTW, this isn't really a documentary. This is more like a highlight piece with comments or brief interviews throughout. What is it documenting? Nothing really, unless there's larger frame to this picture. But the style of this video makes me think there really isn't. In the end, it should essentially be a historical record on video. This video is not as it is.
BTW, while some obviously have a blast, most people I know who come to these things from outside the west coast do leave liking the event, but are blown away by how e-tarted the crowd is. Especially when e-puddles were an epidemic. |
First off...a little housekeeping:
1. You are a moron
2. You have absolutely no knowledge of the history of the rave scene
3. Your vocabulary is incredibly limited
4. Did I mention that you're a moron yet?
You've seen a 10 minute clip of the documentary - and it is that - and you've already decided it's both not a documentary and little more than a fluff piece and simple accounting of events. You are both misinformed and speaking without really having a basis for what you're saying.
Sure, the bit shown is simple and entertaining - just like a teaser/trailer is supposed to be. But that's not what the whole documentary is. From what I know, it's an accounting of the events leading up to and following the enormous cluster- that was EDC2010 and the death of Sasha Rodriguez. The piece also contains some discussion of the RAVE Act and IDAPA, which followed Congress' refusing to pass the original RAVE Act. The piece contains both a discussion of the massive movement in and around the LA area as well as some thoughtful examination, discussion and insight from both the filmmaker and some ravers that have been around since you were in kindergarten and learning how to spell cat.
There is more to the rave scene than missives and insomniac. There always has been. Thing is, that's not unique to LA...never has been. The term "massive" has changed over the years to accommodate the changing scene. The fact is, "massive" raves originated elsewhere and continue to happen all over the world - not just in LA as you so ignorantly suggest. From Energy with 25k in 1989 to Storm Raves in N.Y. bringing together 10's of thousands of ravers, the massive has always been the origin of the scene that we know today - which is at odds with the nonsense that your average raver seems to suggest.
However, the growth of the rave was severely stunted in the early 90's - with the popularity of metal, grunge and the rebirth of punk, people stopped going to raves. We retreated back into the warehouse. Notice the point here - we didn't start there...were pushed there. Things stayed that way for a while - despite the fact that parties like Dune 92/97 and Circa had 10's of the thousands of people, the rave scene was small for the first time since the Manchester parties in the early to mid-80's. It wasn't by design or necessity, it just was that way. The lack of interest in EDM from the youth and the rapid departure of the older raving crowd forced the few of us that were still looking for a party every weekend into downtown and long beach and ty venues in the I.E. - or plain into the desert [which I loved].
That all ended around 1997, when the first of the major/legendary SoCal massives were born. Parties started to get big. Sure, there were still warehouse raiders out there, but parties like EDC, MM, Organic and soon JuJuBeats made the rave scene big again. But no matter how big it got - it was never going to be 100k people [more accurate reports from TAO2000 indicated close to 65k people]. Why?
Interest. In 1998, there simply weren't 100k kids in LA interested in going to a rave. Today, there obviously is. Why that happened is not a question that can be answered easily. IMO - it's because more popular music has begun to emulate EDM - no more bands, just producers creating sounds that you can dance to. The similarity between EDM and the crap kids listen to on the radio has made it so that the music people hear at a rave can more easily appeal to them. Basically, the exact opposite of what happened in 1991/92. Am i right? I don't know. Are you? Probably not.
Is the filmmaker? Who knows. But if he can chronicle one of the most significant moments in rave history, shed a little light on what happened, and offer some opinions/insights...he's done more than any of us ever will.
...and certainly more than you.
P.S. - the drugs have ALWAYS been a part of it. ALWAYS. The only difference between now and 2002 when you allegedly started going to parties is that there's more people. |
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| RedSeptember |
| quote: | Originally posted by omega1n
cool story brah! |
Oh, a cool story bro. Awesome. I had no idea I could find so many morons to cap on in one place.
I think I'll stay a while. |
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| omega1n |
| quote: | Originally posted by RedSeptember
I think I'll stay a while. |
That's cool brah! |
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| RedSeptember |
| quote: | Originally posted by omega1n
That's cool brah! |
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I know brah. |
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| omega1n |
| Pointless documentary/plur movie is pointless. |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
Oh... this is a great impression on a rave documentary by busting out a fellow TA members.
edit* not cool bruh. |
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| RedSeptember |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
Oh... this is a great impression on a rave documentary by busting out a fellow TA members. |
When uninformed/ignorant people pop off on a subject they know nothing about, busting them out is not only acceptable...it's a duty.
Watch the whole film, then talk if you don't like it. |
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| DanceSafe |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
Oh... this is a great impression on a rave documentary by busting out a fellow TA members.
edit* not cool bruh. |
You know how it goes... haterz goin' hate! |
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