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Why Los Angeles attracts so many ravers (pg. 3)
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| omega1n |
| No need to get all peepee hurt from uninformed/ignorant people's opinion. :haha: |
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| RedSeptember |
| quote: | Originally posted by omega1n
No need to get all peepee hurt from uninformed/ignorant people's opinion. :haha: |
Call it a personal flaw...I just handle ignorance. |
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| omega1n |
| quote: | Originally posted by RedSeptember
Call it a personal flaw...I just handle ignorance. |
or you just love getting trolled. :haha: |
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| RedSeptember |
| quote: | Originally posted by omega1n
or you just love getting trolled. :haha: |
Nah. Hard to get trolled when you don't think much of someone's opinion. |
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| omega1n |
| quote: | Originally posted by RedSeptember
Nah. Hard to get trolled when you don't think much of someone's opinion. |
But yet again you'll reply. :haha:
*awaits reply* |
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| jonmitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by RedSeptember
Nah. Hard to get trolled when you don't think much of someone's opinion. |
*posts 6 page reply* |
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| trancension |
| quote: | Originally posted by RedSeptember
Nah. Hard to get trolled when you don't think much of someone's opinion. |
Then what the do you call this? You suck at expressing apathy if you truly do not care about the comments being made.
| quote: | Originally posted by RedSeptember
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First off...a little housekeeping:
1. You are a moron
2. You have absolutely no knowledge of the history of the rave scene
3. Your vocabulary is incredibly limited
4. Did I mention that you're a moron yet?
You've seen a 10 minute clip of the documentary - and it is that - and you've already decided it's both not a documentary and little more than a fluff piece and simple accounting of events. You are both misinformed and speaking without really having a basis for what you're saying.
Sure, the bit shown is simple and entertaining - just like a teaser/trailer is supposed to be. But that's not what the whole documentary is. From what I know, it's an accounting of the events leading up to and following the enormous cluster- that was EDC2010 and the death of Sasha Rodriguez. The piece also contains some discussion of the RAVE Act and IDAPA, which followed Congress' refusing to pass the original RAVE Act. The piece contains both a discussion of the massive movement in and around the LA area as well as some thoughtful examination, discussion and insight from both the filmmaker and some ravers that have been around since you were in kindergarten and learning how to spell cat.
There is more to the rave scene than missives and insomniac. There always has been. Thing is, that's not unique to LA...never has been. The term "massive" has changed over the years to accommodate the changing scene. The fact is, "massive" raves originated elsewhere and continue to happen all over the world - not just in LA as you so ignorantly suggest. From Energy with 25k in 1989 to Storm Raves in N.Y. bringing together 10's of thousands of ravers, the massive has always been the origin of the scene that we know today - which is at odds with the nonsense that your average raver seems to suggest.
However, the growth of the rave was severely stunted in the early 90's - with the popularity of metal, grunge and the rebirth of punk, people stopped going to raves. We retreated back into the warehouse. Notice the point here - we didn't start there...were pushed there. Things stayed that way for a while - despite the fact that parties like Dune 92/97 and Circa had 10's of the thousands of people, the rave scene was small for the first time since the Manchester parties in the early to mid-80's. It wasn't by design or necessity, it just was that way. The lack of interest in EDM from the youth and the rapid departure of the older raving crowd forced the few of us that were still looking for a party every weekend into downtown and long beach and ty venues in the I.E. - or plain into the desert [which I loved].
That all ended around 1997, when the first of the major/legendary SoCal massives were born. Parties started to get big. Sure, there were still warehouse raiders out there, but parties like EDC, MM, Organic and soon JuJuBeats made the rave scene big again. But no matter how big it got - it was never going to be 100k people [more accurate reports from TAO2000 indicated close to 65k people]. Why?
Interest. In 1998, there simply weren't 100k kids in LA interested in going to a rave. Today, there obviously is. Why that happened is not a question that can be answered easily. IMO - it's because more popular music has begun to emulate EDM - no more bands, just producers creating sounds that you can dance to. The similarity between EDM and the crap kids listen to on the radio has made it so that the music people hear at a rave can more easily appeal to them. Basically, the exact opposite of what happened in 1991/92. Am i right? I don't know. Are you? Probably not.
Is the filmmaker? Who knows. But if he can chronicle one of the most significant moments in rave history, shed a little light on what happened, and offer some opinions/insights...he's done more than any of us ever will.
...and certainly more than you.
P.S. - the drugs have ALWAYS been a part of it. ALWAYS. The only difference between now and 2002 when you allegedly started going to parties is that there's more people. |
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| MR STROKE |
| quote: | Originally posted by RedSeptember
First off...a little housekeeping:
1. You are a moron
2. You have absolutely no knowledge of the history of the rave scene
3. Your vocabulary is incredibly limited
4. Did I mention that you're a moron yet?
You've seen a 10 minute clip of the documentary - and it is that - and you've already decided it's both not a documentary and little more than a fluff piece and simple accounting of events. You are both misinformed and speaking without really having a basis for what you're saying.
Sure, the bit shown is simple and entertaining - just like a teaser/trailer is supposed to be. But that's not what the whole documentary is. From what I know, it's an accounting of the events leading up to and following the enormous cluster- that was EDC2010 and the death of Sasha Rodriguez. The piece also contains some discussion of the RAVE Act and IDAPA, which followed Congress' refusing to pass the original RAVE Act. The piece contains both a discussion of the massive movement in and around the LA area as well as some thoughtful examination, discussion and insight from both the filmmaker and some ravers that have been around since you were in kindergarten and learning how to spell cat.
There is more to the rave scene than missives and insomniac. There always has been. Thing is, that's not unique to LA...never has been. The term "massive" has changed over the years to accommodate the changing scene. The fact is, "massive" raves originated elsewhere and continue to happen all over the world - not just in LA as you so ignorantly suggest. From Energy with 25k in 1989 to Storm Raves in N.Y. bringing together 10's of thousands of ravers, the massive has always been the origin of the scene that we know today - which is at odds with the nonsense that your average raver seems to suggest.
However, the growth of the rave was severely stunted in the early 90's - with the popularity of metal, grunge and the rebirth of punk, people stopped going to raves. We retreated back into the warehouse. Notice the point here - we didn't start there...were pushed there. Things stayed that way for a while - despite the fact that parties like Dune 92/97 and Circa had 10's of the thousands of people, the rave scene was small for the first time since the Manchester parties in the early to mid-80's. It wasn't by design or necessity, it just was that way. The lack of interest in EDM from the youth and the rapid departure of the older raving crowd forced the few of us that were still looking for a party every weekend into downtown and long beach and ty venues in the I.E. - or plain into the desert [which I loved].
That all ended around 1997, when the first of the major/legendary SoCal massives were born. Parties started to get big. Sure, there were still warehouse raiders out there, but parties like EDC, MM, Organic and soon JuJuBeats made the rave scene big again. But no matter how big it got - it was never going to be 100k people [more accurate reports from TAO2000 indicated close to 65k people]. Why?
Interest. In 1998, there simply weren't 100k kids in LA interested in going to a rave. Today, there obviously is. Why that happened is not a question that can be answered easily. IMO - it's because more popular music has begun to emulate EDM - no more bands, just producers creating sounds that you can dance to. The similarity between EDM and the crap kids listen to on the radio has made it so that the music people hear at a rave can more easily appeal to them. Basically, the exact opposite of what happened in 1991/92. Am i right? I don't know. Are you? Probably not.
Is the filmmaker? Who knows. But if he can chronicle one of the most significant moments in rave history, shed a little light on what happened, and offer some opinions/insights...he's done more than any of us ever will.
...and certainly more than you.
P.S. - the drugs have ALWAYS been a part of it. ALWAYS. The only difference between now and 2002 when you allegedly started going to parties is that there's more people. |
lulz
thanks for pointing out the entire Rave history in a paragraph
I am not faulting the Raves, Drugs, Candy kids, or Insomniac as a promoter. I am faulting whom ever made this documentary as it looks like . Maybe the full movie is better but that trailer looked terrible and nothing more than a promo for Insomniac events. |
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| RedSeptember |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancension
Then what the do you call this? You suck at expressing apathy if you truly do not care about the comments being made. |
I call that talking .
I'm pretty ninja about it, so I can see how you didn't pick up on it. |
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| trancension |
I call it typing a ing essay.
What's ninja about an essay? |
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| RedSeptember |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancension
I call it typing a ing essay.
What's ninja about an essay? |
I was being sarcastic - thought that was pretty obvious.
As for the essay - you could learn something. Read it again. |
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| drEamer |
| great exalted one, please educate us |
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