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The Dark Knight Rises (pg. 22)
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Clearly you haven't seen Daredevil |
Clearly you're taking the piss here.
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| RapidFire |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Clearly you haven't seen Daredevil |
that masterpiece aside... :p
there have been very few comic book movies that really engaged me on an adult level. X Men First Class and Watchmen are the only ones i can think of that really pushed the genre in the same vein as the nolan trilogy |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by RapidFire
X Men First Class |
Was that actually any good? I never got around to seeing it. |
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| Guest |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Was that actually any good? I never got around to seeing it. |
Meh.
I was glad I went for a matinee screening. |
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| RapidFire |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Was that actually any good? I never got around to seeing it. |
its different from the standard comic book fare. a lot more dialogue driven |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
looks like i am in the minority. was fairly disappointed. felt the other two films were much better. though i loved darth va-i mean bane.
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Far too much expository dialogue, |
one of my biggest complaints. too much telling, not enough showing. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
As I thought it would be, it was extremely enjoyable, and very good for your standard Hollywood block-buster, but still suffered from Nolan's standard issues.
Far too much expository dialogue, smacking the audience in the face with things (a clean slate? like it deletes a persons record, completely cleaning their slate?), obviousness (it was clear who was the real villain almost from the start), and poor directing (look at this, now look at this, now look at this). Most of the time I was able to look past all of these (and the impossibility of a lot of the stuff) and greatly enjoy it, but occasionally it was too much.
Also, anyone else think Bane sounded like Sean Connery? |
To add to this stuff:
Bane is not a good villian. Raz created Batman and forced him to choose how he will deal with crime and revenge, Joker was Batman's philisophical antithesis, and bane is just a smart brute. It's suggested in the beginning that he will outwit batman, and he does but the battle between them is hardly strategic and the story is much more focused on finding a new motivation for batman.
One big ing thing that was missing from the movie was a new batsuit. The movie would have benefited from a new source of imagery and there was a brilliant opportunity after batman has "risen." Even if nolan just painted it silver or gold it would have made a difference.
I found it hilarious that in the final battle between the bat and bane, batman figures out to hit bane's sedative delivery mask. Why not just destroy it in the first place, even if he didn't know what it was? That fight was pretty anticlimatic. Batman doesn't even "defeat" bane.
What is the deal with bruce having no cartilage in his legs, and then magically he fixes his back and finds his way out of the pit?
Talia doesn't look like a villian, at all.
Why couldn't there have been some sort of love triangle? That would have been more interesting...Morally, batman and catwoman are two different people...
Good stuff about the movie:
Bane has an impressive on screen presence
Catwoman's Cat ears were done in a clever way
I love that chase scene in the low ceiling tunnel
Opening scene was better than TDK
Anne Hathaway looks hot
There were some good jokes towards the first half of the movie
Movie moves along relatively briskly, although some scenes do drag their feet
Nolan used a ton of extras to create realistic battle scenes
"The Bat" is pretty neat looking
Scale of the fight is larger than the first two |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
one of my biggest complaints. too much telling, not enough showing. |
Maybe that's what happens when you make Batman 3 after Inception. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| I thought the dark knight opening scene in terms of movie making far superior. The cuts are immaculate. It is quick it is edgy, it introduces the joker and his musical theme , which for some reason is non existent in the DKR. The way in which all the characters are killed, how the bank owner is a crook himself, it is perhaps not as grandiose but much better with more nuance and sets the tone for the overall theme of the movie in the first 30 seconds. There is this one particular edit where the action stops. there is a pulsating synth that you only hear if you have a sub or in the theatre. Just little things like that. It was just more intricate and better choreographed. And the joker theme. A distorted cello that that just rises. Simple yet chaotic and brilliant. Maybe i would have to watch both side by side. The opening scene from DNR almost seems like an add on. Flashy i suppose. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
I thought the dark knight opening scene in terms of movie making far superior. The cuts are immaculate. It is quick it is edgy, it introduces the joker and his musical theme , which for some reason is non existent in the DKR. The way in which all the characters are killed, how the bank owner is a crook himself, it is perhaps not as grandiose but much better with more nuance and sets the tone for the overall theme of the movie in the first 30 seconds. There is this one particular edit where the action stops. there is a pulsating synth that you only hear if you have a sub or in the theatre. Just little things like that. It was just more intricate and better choreographed. And the joker theme.
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So ing true. The opening of TDK is one of the shining points of the film, and Nolan spent an incredible amount of time perfecting that first 15 minutes. It really is a masterclass in film editing.
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
A distorted cello that that just rises. Simple yet chaotic and brilliant. |
Thanks ;) |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
I thought the dark knight opening scene in terms of movie making far superior. The cuts are immaculate. It is quick it is edgy, it introduces the joker and his musical theme , which for some reason is non existent in the DKR. The way in which all the characters are killed, how the bank owner is a crook himself, it is perhaps not as grandiose but much better with more nuance and sets the tone for the overall theme of the movie in the first 30 seconds. There is this one particular edit where the action stops. there is a pulsating synth that you only hear if you have a sub or in the theatre. Just little things like that. It was just more intricate and better choreographed. And the joker theme. A distorted cello that that just rises. Simple yet chaotic and brilliant. Maybe i would have to watch both side by side. The opening scene from DNR almost seems like an add on. Flashy i suppose. |
Visually, Bane's opening was just more visually impressive. The sense of verticality in the plane was neat too. I just laughed when Bane made the comment about shooting a man and then throwing him out of the plane.
The Joker riser is pretty cool.
I think Nolan screened both prologues in imax before the both movies came out. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| Visually stunning in the Michael Bay sort of way. |
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