The more you lot post, the less I think you all have a clue about how films are made or the industry itself or film marketing, which again is pretty frightening considering how much you bang on about them.
Firstly, look at the original trailers for DK - virtually no major plot is given away in those eithers. , you could have made a trailer solely for the first 20 min long heist opening sequence and you still have 80% of the film left over to explain.
Nolan purposefully does not do a Michael Bay and jizz the plot all over your pitifully expectant faces in a 30 second trailer months before the film comes out.
And yes, GSG is also right, when you're releasing the third film, after the first was a massive success and the second was one of the biggest grossing films of all time (and a multiple record holder), nolan could just flash the bat symbol with a date up on a screen for a couple of seconds and millions would still turn out to watch it.
The voice thing? , I don't know where to begin. It's part of the costume so he's not just Bruce wayne in rubber. And on the technical side of things, it's a little more complicated than "EQ". He's actually dubs the voice pretty close to that lower register and then they compress, eq and chorus it. It's a specific FX chain on a theatrical voice over performance.
Finally, it's not a trilogy ;)
GoSpeedGo!
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Nolan purposefully does not do a Michael Bay and jizz the plot all over your pitifully expectant faces in a 30 second trailer months before the film comes out.
Yeah, my point was that this is still quite unusual in context of today's film marketing practice. It's not just Bay; most of the trailers for new movies cover at least 2 acts of the story - in some of them, like in the one for A Dangerous Method, you see almost the whole damn thing. I don't have to be an industry insider to notice this.
Since you're so knowledgeable about all this, isn't it true that directors often don't have any control over what gets shown in the trailers? From what I've read these things are decided by other people who don't even have to be involved in production of the actual film.
Halcyon+On+On
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
dubs
Awwww, .
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
Yeah, my point was that this is still quite unusual in context of today's film marketing practice. It's not just Bay; most of the trailers for new movies cover at least 2 acts of the story - in some of them, like in the one for A Dangerous Method, you see almost the whole damn thing. I don't have to be an industry insider to notice this.
Since you're so knowledgeable about all this, isn't it true that directors often don't have any control over what gets shown in the trailers? From what I've read these things are decided by other people who don't even have to be involved in production of the actual film.
Completely depends. For instance with Bruckheimer, nothing airs without at least their approval, and with Bay, he executive produces the trailers himself. Total control freak.
Other directors let the studio do them (i.e. "I don't want to think about it - you do it") and others actually have no say in the matter - this is often a case of the studio being in command and marketing the film the best way they see fit.
One thing you have to compute is that when the first and even second wave of theatrical trailers are made, the film isn't even close to a final draft edit.
On Iron Man, none of the CGI had even been finished (it was all greenscreen picture or big colored block frames in place of FX) when the first traler went out - ILM had to rush just those few scenes to a finished state so the trailer could distribute, and they weren't even close to a finished product (3-6 months away).
Another problem is score - most people don't realise that the score is the very last thing that gets created and added. When the first trailer comes out for most films, the composer has probably only just scratched out the basic themes; no orchestra recordings have been done, no mixing, no overdubs etc. Usually, they just have to hash together the main theme with samples and add a lot of taikos and booms/FX/sound design.
So the short answer is, if it's one of the big name directors (bay, Howard, Favreau, etc) then chances are they are heavily involved in at least artistic approval of the trailers (of course there are exceptions). If not a big name or it's really a studio created vehicle (rather than the personal project of a director/producer/writer) then more than likely the studio solely creates it or even subs it out.
srussell0018
DJ RANN
WittyHandle
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
The voice thing? , I don't know where to begin. It's part of the costume so he's not just Bruce wayne in rubber. And on the technical side of things, it's a little more complicated than "EQ". He's actually dubs the voice pretty close to that lower register and then they compress, eq and chorus it. It's a specific FX chain on a theatrical voice over performance.
You forgot the extensive use of the flux capacitor and the offset matter / anti-matter ratio. Seriously, no one gives a there DJ Flock of Seagulls. The point is that it was overdone and annoying in Dark Knight and they need to scale it back a bit on this one.
bananas
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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
It's funny how quickly Nolan becomes a controversial subject whenever he gets brought up, even on TA.
I think he's great, personally, and can't wait to see TDKR. The last trailer is interesting in that it doesn't tell us anything new about the plot. Compare that with the new Prometheus trailer which seems to give away lots of important information (though I think there'll stil be surprises). I guess TDK was so successful that now they don't have to tease people with another extensive promo campaign.
Lagrangian
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Originally posted by WittyHandle
You forgot the extensive use of the flux capacitor and the offset matter / anti-matter ratio. Seriously, no one gives a there DJ Flock of Seagulls. The point is that it was overdone and annoying in Dark Knight and they need to scale it back a bit on this one.
HIJACK
Meat187
I'm suspecting more and more that this will suck.
ShabbaRANNx
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Originally posted by WittyHandle
You forgot the extensive use of the flux capacitor and the offset matter / anti-matter ratio. Seriously, no one gives a there DJ Flock of Seagulls. The point is that it was overdone and annoying in Dark Knight and they need to scale it back a bit on this one.
Oh great, you're mixing back to the future with star trek references.
You do ing realise you're on an EDM forum where people actually *might* just know what the they are talking about before instead of just vomit-posting some BS about "EQ"?
Or was all the intelligence used up when selecting an screen name? Oh, obviously not.
Again, it's the whole point - he's not the same person. You may not like it, but it's all on purpose.
Quazar
I think those of us who loved Batman Begins and TDK will love this.
But if you didn't care for Batman Begins and only liked TDK, you'll likely be disappointed. This one is obviously going back to being about Batman, as opposed to having the Joker steal the show (Not that it was a bad thing, that's exactly what the Joker should do).
And I, for one, loved the Bat-voice in the first film. It was a bit overdone in TDK, but I'm sure it'll be toned down in this one since a lot of people complained about it.
