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So the US government starts shutting down tomorrow... (pg. 2)
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
and the republicans walked out of deals. Good job guys, you ed us! :D |
yeah. it's the republicans fault again. classic Obama: do nothing, offer no plan while sitting back criticizing everyone else's, and wait till the last second and swoop in pretending to be above the fray scolding both sides for "playing politics", and claim armageddon will happen if we don't all do exactly what he wants. where was he 3 months ago on this? 6 months ago? 1 year ago? |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Thanks for the info.
yeah, that sucks :p |
It'll suck more once the entire world's economy shuts down with ours :( |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
yeah. it's the republicans fault again. classic Obama: do nothing, offer no plan while sitting back criticizing everyone else's, and wait till the last second and swoop in pretending to be above the fray scolding both sides for "playing politics", and claim armageddon will happen if we don't all do exactly what he wants. |
Wait, so he's both offering no plan and telling us to do something? I am le confused here.
Also, I thought this was Congress' resonsibility, not the President's. Doesn't him sitting back and doing nothing actually fit his responsibilities as per the (non-living) Constitution?
Very, very confused.
Also, also, I thought he had offered multiple plans. |
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| The17sss |
| it's not going to shut down for chrissake. the treasury still takes in $200 billion/month, plenty of money to service our debt and pay all the ing entitlements. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
it's not going to shut down for chrissake. the treasury still takes in $200 billion/month, plenty of money to service our debt and pay all the ing entitlements. |
Oh good, so all the stories I've read about thousands of workers being furloughed was all nonsense :) |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Wait, so he's both offering no plan and telling us to do something? I am le confused here.
Also, I thought this was Congress' resonsibility, not the President's. Doesn't him sitting back and doing nothing actually fit his responsibilities as per the (non-living) Constitution?
Very, very confused.
Also, also, I thought he had offered multiple plans. |
Congress DID pass two plans already: the Ryan plan, and Cut Cap & Balance. The Senate shot both of them down. The Senate was supposed to pass its own budget 813 days ago... BY LAW, and have not. The only time they tried was back in February, and it got voted down 97-0... every single Democrat even thought what Obama proposed was too radical. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Congress DID pass two plans already: the Ryan plan, and Cut Cap & Balance. The Senate shot both of them down. The Senate was supposed to pass its own budget 813 days ago... BY LAW, and have not. The only time they tried was back in February, and it got voted down 97-0... every single Democrat even thought what Obama proposed was too radical. |
Little fyi, Congress is more than one house ;) |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| keep ing up so my canadian mortgage stays low. I don't mind. Lews you should be ecstatic, aren't you heavily invested in silver? |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
keep ing up so my canadian mortgage stays low. I don't mind. Lews you should be ecstatic, aren't you heavily invested in silver? |
Yeah, but I'd still prefer the country to reach a solution (even if financially I might actually be better off otherwise :p) |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Little fyi, Congress is more than one house ;) |
I know. The point is, Congress is doing it's job... the Republicans are the only ones who have actually put forth serious detailed plans to be voted on. The Democrats have produced nothing. ZERO. Like I said, the Democrats in the Senate are 813 days behind passing a budget. That's.... what, Bush's fault? |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
I know. The point is, Congress is doing it's job... the Republicans are the only ones who have actually put forth serious detailed plans to be voted on. The Democrats have produced nothing. ZERO. Like I said, the Democrats in the Senate are 813 days behind passing a budget. That's.... what, Bush's fault? |
Political showmanship. Everyone knew those plans would never get through. Ryan's plan was completely off the reservation (although, admittedly, props to him for having a detailed plan, even if it ing sucked).
And the republican's are refusing to negotiate. Congress needs to make compromises. Refusing to add in any tax cuts whatsoever is ing stupid.
Not really sure how you seriously can just blame the Democrats for this catastrophe. |
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| tubularbills |
| I'm still gainfully employed :) |
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