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| JMF [TrAcId] |
Woah... this has turned into Quite a debate, there are so many points to address. but first of all, it's good to see that a quite a few of you agree with me, not so good that a few of you have turned around and said, that's me...deal.
First of all it doesn't bother me that much if someone is joking around, saying suchand such is gay, sometimes it's funny. I feel on this Message board in particular it's used way to much, and for the wrong reasons. Another point brought up was that term is used to describe something 'lame' but doesn't suggest that being gay is lame WTF?? of course it does. You are giving meaning to the word. And someone else said the word Gay means happy, so as a Homosexual i shouldn't be offended by it being applied to other thing. OK then example:
"Tiesto's new Style is so Gay, he needs to sort it out."
Am I supposed to believe this is a positive comment?
Anyway, i just wanted to make people aware of the atitudes of somepeople, and i'm really not interested in naming and shaming. I know that people aren't going to change the way they speak, but at least I have made some aware of it.
Thanks for all the people who have supported me :D
oh> And on a closing Note. I am the most 'normal' man you will meet, sexual preference has nothing to do with it at all. That's my business. |
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| InAcoma |
hhmm....
i think sometimes ppl use it to be defensive and other times they just use it for the sake of it....
i am not fussed with it being used... but thats just me
i do agree with JMF [TrAcId] however... :)
n TA's remember...
ppl r personalities not sexualities :D :D :D
thats my 2 cents worth...
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| DJ_ALFA |
come on people, relax
what's wrong with calling something or someone gay? it just means happy :D check your dictionary |
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| Miss Proximus |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_ALFA
come on people, relax
what's wrong with calling something or someone gay? it just means happy :D check your dictionary |
wtf :whip:
I hate it when you have a good discussion and some people treat it as if it's a random flamewar :whip:
Thanks to Mikey_Mike I wasn't bored today!! At least he gave me some stuff to think about! Unlike some other people in this thread (dumbasses) :) |
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| JMF [TrAcId] |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_ALFA
come on people, relax
what's wrong with calling something or someone gay? it just means happy :D check your dictionary |
OK..again I'll point something out for you.
| quote: | And someone else said the word Gay means happy, so as a Homosexual i shouldn't be offended by it being applied to other thing. OK then example:
"Tiesto's new Style is so Gay, he needs to sort it out."
Am I supposed to believe this is a positive comment?
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| Twig |
| well seems to me that 99% of the people on here are 'gay' :haha: |
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| Hybrid Junkie |
| quote: | Originally posted by nadi
I generally don't have a problem with people using the term gay in a derogatory term, as long as its not directed to homosexuals. The reason for this is that gay doesn't technically mean homosexual, and even if it did the way everyone uses it and percives is is not saying homosexuals are bad, but rather thats just . My parents are freinds with some homosexual guys, they were at my house one day and I called my freind gay, and then I was like oh there here, and they didnt care it doesn't bother them etc, so it really shouldnt bother us :P
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I agree with nadi, I think it's bad when it's directed at homosexuals in a derogatory fashion but in general language I don't mind it...only because...
- I think it may have started as being derogatory, and although it does still mean lame, I Personally Believe that it has lost it's links with sexuality and is now just another adjective
- And being just an adjective I don't find it insulting because nowadays I never even think of sexuality when I see "Tiesto's new style is gay", I just think "oh well, bad set" It's not like a think "Hmm that set was as disgusting and terrible as a homosexual"!!!!???!!!!
- Also I know a couple of homosexual guys (4), and yes I know not everyone's the same, but they all say Gay as well because it's just an adjective now it seems, I've said " that's soo gay" and then looked at them and they're like "Dun worry" and 10 mins later one of them says "Look at that gay car" I'm like WTF and they all said they say it all the time without thinking about it, cos it's just a word
Yes everyone has diff. Opinions and are going to interpret derogatory words badly, or ignore them (me, pat, mikey, nadi) *when* they're not trying to directly insult a group/person.
Hope that helps as to Why some of us don't mind. Just my 2 cents JMF, no harm meant.
BTW, good on you for stating your sexuality on TA buddy (I don't mean to sound patronising, I mean it seriously. Oh and also it shouldn't be such a big thing either but humans can be s so it's still a brave move)
| quote: | Originally posted by InAcoma
n TA's remember...
ppl r personalities not sexualities
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best advice of the thread... |
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| JMF [TrAcId] |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hybrid Junkie
[*]And being just an adjective I don't find it insulting because nowadays I never even think of sexuality when I see "Tiesto's new style is gay", I just think "oh well, bad set" It's not like a think "Hmm that set was as disgusting and terrible as a homosexual"!!!!???!!!! |
OMG - LMAO at this, I appreciate your comments, and I totally understand where everyone is coming from with this, as I said, essentially I'm not that bothered with the use of it, i just wanted to make people aware of the effect it can have, and how it's become a standard in the Vocab of many people because of hatrid and dislike.
At least i know i have given a few people something to think about, and that was the main point of the post in the first place - and i was bored while waiting for my Download of the new Halloween Movie to finish :P |
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| CortexBomb |
Damn, I'm getting involved in this thread a little late...hopefully there'll still be some people reading.
IMHO this is really more an issue of respect than anything. People who respect a group simply won't use a deragatory term for them, even in a light-hearted manner, period.
I understand that gay has somehow become a slang term for e in the Americas (and other places apparently) but that still doesn't make it right IMO.
I'm a queer myself, and though the usage doesn't offend me outright, I *have* noticed that it flies around a lot on TA, anyone who's gay would.
I just look at this from personal experience...I would *never* use a term like chink, ******, etc. because I think it shows disrespect to the ethnic group in question; just as I think the way gay is used on here, and in other places shows disrespect to homosexual people.
I was just on a trip to Europe with a large group primarily made up of Americans and I couldn't believe some of the rascist e that was flying out of people's mouths...comments to the effect of "terrorist" directed at Islamic people, and a ton of "Nazi" comments while we were in Germany.
That kind of blind ignorance disgusts me to no end. The world is a pretty large place, I think there's plenty of room for everyone to do their own thing without stepping on each other's toes.
A lot of gay people will laugh stuff like this off, but I think most of them, when you get right down to it, *are* bothered my it, but either start using the terms themselves, or feign indifference so they don't "cause problems" or what-have-you with their mates.
I can understand the fact that a lot of people have grown up with gay being used, and that breaking out of the habit doesn't seem like it's worth the effort, but I still don't agree with it. The usage, like any other deragatory slang, *does* show disrespect whether you intend it to or not; and by continuing to use it you *will* appear to be something that I don't think a lot of you are, ignorant.
Just my 2 cents on the matter... |
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| DuMonde TrAnCeR |
| quote: | Originally posted by JMF [TrAcId]
I'm not one to have a moan, or rant about things. but something on this forum has really started to annoy me. This being the way that some Message Board members use the term 'gay' as an insult. I don't know what it's like in America or Canada, but here in the UK it's not done - it's almost Homophobia. Infact it is Homophobia, you are using the term Gay to describe a Bad, or a Lame thing, ie. 'he's so gay for liking gangtsa rap..' whatever.
I find it offensive, and uncalled for, and maybe you should all think about what you are saying before you hit submit.
And before you all ask, Yes, I am Gay. (seems like i'm the only one?)
Rant over, you can all go back to your business. :) |
hello justin :tongue3 |
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| JMF [TrAcId] |
| quote: | Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR
hello justin :tongue3 |
Hello Ste :D surely you have more to say on the matter than that?
CortexBomb>>Some nice points there, it's nice to know I'm not alone. |
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| sykadelik |
IMO there is no need to get all het up. Its jes something people always call each other expescially in england. I don't think there is much u can do. I know i call people gay every now and again, its jes one of those things.
I am afraid we do not live in a perfect world! |
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