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| srussell0018 |
| lol probably why zidumare likes him. |
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| LAdazeNYnights |
nah zidumare likes him because ron paul is one of the only ppl to not criticize zidumare's productions.
"As a nuclear power - as the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon - the United States has a moral responsibility to act against zidumare for aural crimes against humanity."
-Obama
"Conservatism has had from its inception vigorously positive, intellectually rigorous agenda and thinking. That agenda should have in my three pillars: strengthen our security, strengthen our families, and neuter producers of bad tranz."
-Romney
"Another term for preventive war is aggressive war - starting wars because someday somebody might do something to us. That is not part of the American tradition. Let zidumare do his thing in peace."
-Paul |
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| zidumare |
| quote: | Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
Never said I agree with much of what he says or stands for but I respect the man as a politician because he comes off as a real person to me. (Even if he's a real ing crazy person) |
Ron Paul is about the only sane one left on this planet. there is not a lot like him left, he's
CRAZY, because he has the courage to stand up for TRUTH FREEDOM AND JUSTICE. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| He's crazy because he is crazy. Libertarianism is about as sane as Anarchism is, and its essentially the same thing in the long run. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| Anarchy has no "long run". |
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| srussell0018 |
| Most Ron Paul supporters don't even understand what Libertarianism is. They just think it's good because it has the root word liberty. "Oh there's less rules and more liberty? I'm all for that! Sounds like a perfect viable form of government for 300 million people!" |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Anarchy has no "long run". |
and hence neither does Libertarianism. The only thing that separates them is the opposition to violence, which while sounding fine and dandy is really just words. When a system of "strict government" like they claim we have now can't stop all or even most violence, what makes them think that removing all of those protections would be any better? Also you introduce things like private police and firefighters? We tried that, it didn't work out well (and there are many other examples like that from modern times back 200 years). |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | | Mayor Cresenzi said that a crowd gathered at the fire, and that its members seemed to include firefighters from neighboring communities who were willing to let the fire burn to prove a point. He said he heard someone in the crowd say, ''Let the Jews burn,'' which he took to be a sign of the generalized animosities between the village and some of its neighbors. The residents of the house were not Jewish. |
Stay classy, Northeast. :p |
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| zidumare |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
He's crazy because he is crazy. Libertarianism is about as sane as Anarchism is, and its essentially the same thing in the long run. |
Joss
is another democrat who has no clue what anarchism actually is. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Explain. Provide proof. Discuss your points. Validate them. Come to a conclusion. Prove me wrong. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by zidumare
Joss
is another democrat who has no clue what anarchism actually is. |
Its the idea that people can be 100% self-governing and that a centralized government is useless and provides no benefit to a person, because that persons skills are inherently superior.
You know there are plenty of countries that have no centralized governments at the moment, or very weak ones. You might want to try them on for size, Somalia, Afghanistan, you know, those shining beacons of human cooperation and self-governance!
Hell I'll even buy you a ticket there if you want! :) |
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| zidumare |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
and hence neither does Libertarianism. The only thing that separates them is the opposition to violence, which while sounding fine and dandy is really just words. When a system of "strict government" like they claim we have now can't stop all or even most violence, what makes them think that removing all of those protections would be any better? Also you introduce things like private police and firefighters? We tried that, it didn't work out well (and there are many other examples like that from modern times back 200 years). |
you have to understand that society makes criminal.
everyone steals when they see themselves to have
"no other viable options"
im positive that 95% of people on this planet have taken something that's not theirs, and got away with it without criminal punishment.
crime only exists when needs aren't being met, or the person has no other viable option but to use crime to gain power.
im pretty sure if everyone on this planet had their needs met, a lot less crime would exist, but sadly just like anything else these days...
JAIL is now a FINANCIAL INSTITUTION that makes a profit. if you dont believe me, go watch shawshank redemption and pay attention !! |
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