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Beatflux
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Originally posted by cryophonik
Darek - it's just one person's opinion. Don't let it get to you. Seriously, it's times like this when you probably just need to step away from it for a bit and get your head back on straight, then re-channel all that negative energy into positive energy. We've all been there.


That's some serious tony robbins right there. Did you ever go to a seminar in cali?
Kysora
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
I can't stand guy who is running around TA site like a wild animal and trashing most of our threads with no consequences at all :stongue:


He offered valid reasons why your idea might not work, he didn't just parade into this thread to all over your hopes and dreams without substantiating his claims. come on, man.
TranceLover007
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Originally posted by Kysora
He offered valid reasons why your idea might not work, he didn't just parade into this thread to all over your hopes and dreams without substantiating his claims. come on, man.


Ok, I didn't ask him for his opinion on my idea/concept so from my perspective he didn't offer me anything new (except his standard crappy bla, bla, bla and why this is an idiotic and stupid idea and trying to convince me that this is not going to work) -> how hard is to understand that people don't care about his trashing comment in their threads (except if they ask some specific technical question which in this area, I believe he can shine). He's got big, I mean big mouth and when he find much better use of it then we can have intelligent discussion on any subject he wants - got to keep my eye on this child.

Thanks man, appreciate,

Darek
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Yeah, oh well, I don't think that whatever I did was embarrassing at least for me, lol, but I can't stand guy who is running around TA site like a wild animal and trashing most of our threads with no consequences at all :stongue: -> but you are right all of us will do whatever we believe is best for us and not pay any attention to those guys like ......., never mind lol

Cheers Dave,

Darek


Come on, man. This is all you, not knowing who you are and letting Loony get into your head to push your buttons. Everyone who has had a problem with him is guilty of the same thing - including me. The fact is that just because he trashes someone's idea, musically related or otherwise, doesn't mean he's "trashing most of our threads with no consequences." So what if he is trashing ideas? He is either wrong or right and if he's wrong, the consequence of him being wrong has no bearing on the results.

EDIT: Multi-tasking is stupidity.
TranceLover007
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
Come on, man. This is all you, not knowing who you are and Loony get into your head to push your buttons. Everyone who has a problem with him is guilty of the same thing - including me. The fact is that just because he trashes someone's idea, musically related or otherwise, doesn't mean he's "trashing most of our threads with no consequences." So what if he is trashing ideas? He is either wrong or right and if he's wrong, the consequence of him being wrong has no bearing on the results.


Oh man, why do you guys always think that this is our problem not his lol, hi is getting to your mind and let you believe that he the higher instance over her with superior view on every subject in discussion lol ,I just don't simply think that this is normal thing woooooooow, and seriously doesn't really matter what he believes or things about this and different subject we discussing on TA site.

Cheers man,

Darek
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Oh man, why do you guys always think that this is our problem not his lol, hi is getting to your mind and let you believe that he the higher instance over her with superior view on every subject in discussion lol ,I just don't simply think that this is normal thing woooooooow, and seriously doesn't really matter what he believes or things about this and different subject we discussing on TA site.

Cheers man,

Darek


Just because I like him doesn't mean he's got me any more bamboozled than you do. Do I like you because you've got me fooled? I don't think you're giving me much credit, friend. One of the things I think is cool about him is that he doesn't varnish his opinion with misleading nicety. I can trust him in that regard. I don't mind people who just look at the upside of everything (or who genuinely perceive things as good) but I give a lot of credit to posters like MSZ, SYSTEM-J, and Looney4Clooney (all three have given brutal reviews of my work), because I know they're not pulling punches, trying to make sure my feelings aren't hurt. That doesn't mean I always agree with their assessments. That doesn't even mean I always get along with them. I just know that I've learned more from trying to see things from their perspectives than by shunning them.

The way I see this thread is that you're just trying to get people to agree that Looney's views are irrelevant because you dislike his bed-side manner and don't particularly care for his opinion of your ideas. In short, you're just trying to silence him because he doesn't agree with you. I honestly think you're being a bit stubborn and short-sighted. I think you've wrapped your ideas in so much ego that it hurts your feelings he's not accepting them. The bottom line is that if you didn't respect him - his ideas, experience, intelligence, et al - you wouldn't be so persistent with your arguments against him. It's much easier to discount someone if you don't respect them and you're clearly having a hard time discounting Looney.
Looney4Clooney
very simple, your thread, your problem . And you just ruined both of them. Brilliant. So ya, this is your problem. NOt mine. YOu continue this stupid repartee. Honestly, what are you gaining from this transaction ? me i'm laughing . but you? you aren't getting anything. So why bother. IT makes no sense. I voiced an opinion, granted not a very pro opinon. And you ing snowballed that for pages. And what did you get out it ? You can't ing navigate a forum, and you want to make this ing super EDM portal. I mean dude. You need some coaching. Because this is your idea, this is yoru thread, and as dumb as i look , it makes your thread suck. How do you not see this. WHy do you let it continue.

you know what man, if you just said , i appreciate your comments, but i woudl like to hear from people that have opinions on the pro side for now. Dude, why would i post. OR just ask me to stop. Seriously that easy. You should try that one time. IF someone is adsding the sort of stuff you want, pm him, ask him nicely, seriously 99% of the time, that person will stop.
TranceLover007
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
Just because I like him doesn't mean he's got me any more bamboozled than you do. Do I like you because you've got me fooled? I don't think you're giving me much credit, friend. One of the things I think is cool about him is that he doesn't varnish his opinion with misleading nicety. I can trust him in that regard. I don't mind people who just look at the upside of everything (or who genuinely perceive things as good) but I give a lot of credit to posters like MSZ, SYSTEM-J, and Looney4Clooney (all three have given brutal reviews of my work), because I know they're not pulling punches, trying to make sure my feelings aren't hurt. That doesn't mean I always agree with their assessments. That doesn't even mean I always get along with them. I just know that I've learned more from trying to see things from their perspectives than by shunning them.

The way I see this thread is that you're just trying to get people to agree that Looney's views are irrelevant because you dislike his bed-side manner and don't particularly care for his opinion of your ideas. In short, you're just trying to silence him because he doesn't agree with you. I honestly think you're being a bit stubborn and short-sighted. I think you've wrapped your ideas in so much ego that it hurts your feelings he's not accepting them. The bottom line is that if you didn't respect him - his ideas, experience, intelligence, et al - you wouldn't be so persistent with your arguments against him. It's much easier to discount someone if you don't respect them and you're clearly having a hard time discounting Looney.


Not at all Eddie, as I said that before, I do respect him because his theoretical knowledge but that is all, never offended him (damn it, why are we even discussing this again) but all of those comment about how retarded this idea is (which basically started few day ago over here in another thread, remember this was only a discussion about state in label situation) --> in my view is just bit over the line!

There was no problem at all with different views and perspective and even DJRANN give his (and I believe most accurate) opinion without all this drama, I just can't believe it came to this lol, looks like he is that kind of guy who feed itself out of this and quietly play a victim after all --> sweet game, but I don't dance.

Thank man, appreciate that you are taking your own time to cleanup this mess lol, thanks.

Darek
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Not at all Eddie, as I said that before, I do respect him because his theoretical knowledge but that is all, never offended him (damn it, why are we even discussing this again) but all of those comment about how retarded this idea is (which basically started few day ago over here in another thread, remember this was only a discussion about state in label situation) --> in my view is just bit over the line!

There was no problem at all with different views and perspective and even DJRANN give his (and I believe most accurate) opinion without all this drama, I just can't believe it came to this lol, looks like he is that kind of guy who feed itself out of this and quietly play a victim after all --> sweet game, but I don't dance.

Thank man, appreciate that you are taking your own time to cleanup this mess lol, thanks.

Darek


It really is up to you to find the truth in this. I think you're missing it by a mile, right now. That said, I've done my part.
Looney4Clooney
Derek,

you need to stop,

And think about where you want things to go from here. Trying to associate blame doesn't help your thread. Think about what you want. Now approach it from that perspective. Some is ting on your thread. Your goal should of been to stop the discourse i was on , and continue with what you were talking about. All you had to do was acknowledge it, and say something like, could be, but its something i feel strongly about. Done. You could of saved 10 pages.

Instead you try to have some battle. How does that help you ? How does making me look stupid help your thread ? IT doesn't. It just makes your thread a popcorn fest.

THe only reason i continued was because you did. Had you said something along what i said, nobody is going to you with after that. Ahh derek.

Number one rule with heads, do not get in the mudd. Because their posts will be on the last page before you know it. But you keep adding fuel. And you try to respond at a type of rhetoric that never makes anyone look good. But this is your project. You need to learn to find the trouble makers, and stamp that out. It sn't hard. Trust me. YOu just have to be so nice that to continue being an well just makes me look like a ing retard. And ignore it. I hope you learned something. Because you had 2 threads. That are all full of now. And you could of stopped that. So i suggest you erase them , and start again because right now , its a storm.

Do you argue with your kids ? Well treat things you don't want interrupting your ideas the same. Don't go looking for a fight that you can't win because as soon as you do , well the focus is not on your idea. And well , i'm really really really good at it.

If you want to start a business, this skill , of continuously analyzing what is going on, where you want it to go, and what you need to say to get it there is essential. Every word you say, should be intentional, and have a purpose. And it takes a while. But writting is where you can start.

TranceLover007
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Derek,

you need to stop,

And think about where you want things to go from here. Trying to associate blame doesn't help your thread. Think about what you want. Now approach it from that perspective. Some is ting on your thread. Your goal should of been to stop the discourse i was on , and continue with what you were talking about. All you had to do was acknowledge it, and say something like, could be, but its something i feel strongly about. Done. You could of saved 10 pages.

Instead you try to have some battle. How does that help you ? How does making me look stupid help your thread ? IT doesn't. It just makes your thread a popcorn fest.

THe only reason i continued was because you did. Had you said something along what i said, nobody is going to you with after that. Ahh derek.


You got this completely in revers man, I didn't start damn it any fight with you and anybody else over her, and I'm not any mile away from ant truth here lol - he wants to have another free ride and I sad simply NO and with this closing statement and with my respect to another members on this forum, we are done with this thread.

Thank you all for valuable info and/or your personal experiences and only time will tell it ant of those discussed ideas will materialize - appreciate !!!

Cheers,

Darek
Looney4Clooney
again ,

it doesn't matter who started what,

the end result is your thread is now . That is the only thing that should matter. And your only focus should of been to keep on track. And you lost that focus, And you got sucked in. And wrong or right, your ideas stopped mattering because there ids 10 pages of bull. And that is your problem.

Even now , when i'm levelling with you because this is stupid, you are still using passive aggressive language. Why ? What do you get ? Start over, because this thread is just sullied. I an being rather sincere in my advice to you.
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