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Your future expectations (pg. 4)
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
It's still a way to direct people to your music.. but, that's what I'm saying, I have no clue how the hell to get my music out there. As far as I know nobody really cares when I release a new track, it goes largely unnoticed by all but a very small number of people.
I don't know. The best I can hope for is to establish a connection with other artists by actively seeking out their music, listening to it, commenting, and hoping they'd do the same for me. I just don't have the time for it, really. And labels don't want anything to do with me.
I know it's my fault on some level, but I really just don't understand how to get a decent sized audience. Musicians far better than myself have said great things about my music, so I must be doing something right. Promotion, though, I wouldn't even know where to start |
I don't think you get it. People are jerking each other off, telling one another that their is great...when in reality its not.
If you were making andy blueman I would be surprised if you got very little attention, but you aren't.
There's an Andy track w/ half a million hits, and then there's your track. If your track doesn't sound professional, don't expect a lot of attention from listeners or labels. |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
It's the whole getting people to come across my name thing that I don't get. Soundcloud and beatport give me the same exact opportunity you described.
But you're not giving details so I can't speak like I know anything about it. hope it works out for you. |
Lol, I get what you are asking for man, let say even is someone will find you and buy you on beatpot, how much money you will have from that purchase? (what is this percentage 15~20) - in case of this new idea you will have between 60~70% of any sell. On top of that we will have weekly producer promotion corner which will be on the front/main page for the whole week (no more detail lol, you are pulling my tongue :D)
Cheers,
Darek |
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| Looney4Clooney |
there is this thing called Itunes. Guess what they keep, 40%. Honestly , your idea is not going to work because you are looking at it from the wrong end. Worry first about getting people buying , then sort the rest out. That is the problem with beatport, and well yoru system. It is only for EDM. And by making it EDM, you alienate the average person. They don't think of it as EDM.And unless you have about 100 000 kicking around, what on earth do you really plan to do. Keeping 70% of 0 is still 0. You don't get it, nobody is ever going to buy 99% of the they sell on beatport.
This is all nice talking about it and what not but it smells of the same bull coke talk that JOOF was ting last month. It is lame. People that do stuff don't make ing polls on TA about it. And considering the amount of that gets say on here, and well I 'm assuming you don't have the sort of capital to do anything remotely useful, well it just sounds like you are talking bull. |
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| Kysora |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
There's an Andy track w/ half a million hits, and then there's your track. If your track doesn't sound professional, don't expect a lot of attention from listeners or labels. |
I don't think you get it. I didn't say I expect attention because a few people on SC say I'm talented. I've got examples but I'm not in the mood to list off the few good things anyone's said about my music so people can judge me based off of them
I'm just saying, if I have the whole talent thing somewhat sorted out, I don't know where to go from there. That's my fault, I believe I mentioned that, but it's still frustrating and it's relevant to the whole "future expectations" thing we're supposed to be talking about.
that track is 2 and a half years old as well, I'm not really sure why you went straight for the oldest track on my soundcloud as if it represents my current abilities as a producer. I never claimed to make "andy blueman ". |
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| jayxthekoolest |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
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I'm just saying, if I have the whole talent thing somewhat sorted out, I don't know where to go from there. That's my fault, I believe I mentioned that, but it's still frustrating and it's relevant to the whole "future expectations" thing we're supposed to be talking about. |
get published on a major label
have a big name dj play your track every day for a month
hire a manager
make more tracks
profit |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
there is this thing called Itunes. Guess what they keep, 40%. Honestly , your idea is not going to work because you are looking at it from the wrong end. Worry first about getting people buying , then sort the rest out. That is the problem with beatport, and well yoru system. It is only for EDM. And by making it EDM, you alienate the average person. They don't think of it as EDM.And unless you have about 100 000 kicking around, what on earth do you really plan to do.
This is all nice talking about it and what not but it smells of the same bull coke talk that JOOF was ting last month. It is lame. |
Why on Earth you are so close minded man/you/Rich, ....., I though that you one of the best, cool minded, fresh look kind of guy which always have a different view and perspective then most people over here - what a disappointment.
How you going to learn running as a kid if you didn't even start walking on your own?? - every small fail is another step to success my friend and this may not happen overnight but at least will be a beginning of some interesting and massive but positive changes for producers in this industries.
Remember, changing this direction the industries operates is going to be slow process but at least we going to make it happen.
Cheers,
Darek |
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| Beatflux |
What's the difference between the two tracks? |
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| Kysora |
| do you have a reason for spamming my tracks here while ignoring everything else I'm saying or do you have an actual point you're trying to make |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceLover007
Why on Earth you are so close minded man/you/Rich, ....., I though that you one of the best, cool minded, fresh look kind of guy which always have a different view and perspective then most people over here - what a disappointment.
How you going to learn running as a kid if you didn't even start walking on your own?? - every small fail is another step to success my friend and this may not happen overnight but at least will be a beginning of some interesting and massive but positive changes for producers in this industries.
Remember, changing this direction the industries operates is going to be slow process but at least we going to make it happen.
Cheers,
Darek |
dude , see i am
but like you need to shut up, and just do it. If this is your idea of ing market research, well , i think you just proved my point. People that do things do it, they don't talk about it. And you just talk and you don't really inspire anything worthwhile. I mean if i had a load of cash to burn, you wouldn't see a dime. THat is how you are not selling yourself. This is the kind of people say when they are drunk and you know its bs but you don't say anything because his friend is know to give the best rim jobs on thee upper east side.
What you are talking about , is what joof was talking about, which is just your own version of beatport which fdoesn't solve the problem and the fact you don't seem to know what the problem is, well that to me is enough. The problem isn't that Raphie isn't making money. Raphie shoudln't make money. The problem is that about only 5% of the people that like EDM manage to find a way to buy it and if you think you can run something that is not integrated into Itunes, dream on. Sure , your hardcore fans buy off your site, eveyrone else will be using Itunes. Accept that. Itunes is where the music business is and for the moment only is concerning download sales.
I am being realistic, what you are thinking about has been done and at this point in time, unless you have alot of money to even make a dent in itunes which you won't, what can you offer ? 70%? again 70% of 0 is 0. |
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| jayxthekoolest |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
do you have a reason for spamming my tracks here while ignoring everything else I'm saying or do you have an actual point you're trying to make |
See you're young so you still have a chance to make it. He's probably just a bitter old man trying to make you hate life like he does |
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| Kysora |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
What's the difference between the two tracks? |
about 4 years of experience. I could post one of my tracks from 2008 to show how far I've come in that amount of time but I still have no ing idea what your point is.
unless you're just trying to take a fellow musician who's clearly a tad discouraged at the moment, and using that opportunity to sufficiently all over what's left of their ego, just for the hell of it.
in which case, carry on |
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| Normie |
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
See you're young so you still have a chance to make it. He's probably just a bitter old man trying to make you hate life like he does |
Hey Cryo and TL, am I psychic or what?
Quote from Page 2 of this thread...
"The best part is there will be 80 percent of the thread readers thinking what 'jaded old farts' we are 'who gave on the dream..AND THAT WON'T BE ME MAN!!!! I'M GONNA BE RICH!!!"
When in reality I, and I' have no doubt you, hav led some pretty interesting and satisfying lives." |
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