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Professional Ghost Productions For Sale... (pg. 8)
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wayfinder
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Originally posted by Trancelover03591
Hey L4C how you like the music video for the track? :toothless



thats not his video, thats some fhm or esquire photoshoot


edit: Daisy Lowe for Esquire
matuto
such a funny thread to read hahahaha
MSZ
:)
Sushipunk
LOL, yeah, this was a good read.
DJ RANN
Oh , I totally forgot about this thread. I'm even posting under some Alt (shabbaRANNxxx) because worst_mod_ever accidentally banned me for posting in a fake passport thread.

ing epic. You've got joel ( to his friends :p ) posting smack about glenn morrison, then glen weirdly chiming in with his Resume to try to dissuade us believing he's a charlatan, then Richie (L4C) is prime form, especially him and Mack flirting (which is bizarre as I could have sworn I read somewhere Mack had a wife and kid).

Gotta love the production forum.
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
I'm even posting under some Alt (shabbaRANNxxx) because worst_mod_ever accidentally banned me for posting in a fake passport thread.


I remember that :stongue:
MSZ
Nohomo unless you're cute.
mysticalninja
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Originally posted by deadmau5
oh god the irony. ghost ghost writing. ... yeah i remember back in 2008 at i literally donated him "no sudden moves" and "contact" because they were too much in the same vein as "not exactly" at the time, so i unloaded the masters to glenn to release for some stupid ass reason ill never fully understand.

Sadly, yes, there are still quite a handful of "producers" that can't produce. Its not nearly as common and prevalent as it was a few years back, but yeah... if you enter that world, just make sure you're ready to lawyer up in a few years. It's gets ridiculess... ghost writting is the faux pas term for what everyone likes to call "executive producer" these days.... i guess it sounds less untalented or something.


So i'm guessing that Adam K was also actually written by you
Kthought
Hell of a thread here boys. I have a story about Joel playing where i was having a residency around 2006, i was a producer/dj (rare at the time) and he came in and was just so much better i got depressed lol.

here's the coolest thing i took out of this one, a cool snapshot of the underlying problems:
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Here is a universal truth. When producers start to become mastering engineers not by demand but by desperation, all is not so ing swell.


You'll have to excuse me, I just thought it would be cool to know all the things.
matuto
Every producer should know about mixing/mastering even if he doesnt do taht for himself, cause if you dont know something you cant specify that to an engineer and he wont do exactly what you want.

Plus, I think its great to mix/master your own stuff, cause thats where you can leave your final touch to the song.

Kthought
Of course now! back in 2006 if you mixed and mastered your own stuff, and it was decent, well then you'd be deadmau5. (Me? i dithered my probably 4 or 5 times. oops.) There is a discussion tangent on pro-sumer technology here & i'll just put a pin in it.

I bitch and complain, but in all reality having to learn to technically mix (not relative) and master is not detrimental in any way. I just wish I couldve skipped learning it in my 20's to play out and party more.
DJ RANN
The problem both of you are missing (kthought & Matuto) is that mastering is not something you can just blag your way through. It's a incredibly nuanced skillset and you have to realize that most decent mastering engineers have spend decades (yes decades) honing their craft on incredibly expensive kit to add that subtle magic in just the right way.

Mixing is a different thing; it's part of the creative process and can completely change the engineering dynamics of a track so as a producer (at least for edm) you really should be able to mix your own tracks. Even then, if a producer makes a track then sends it to someone to mix, that can be a smart decision - a good musician or producer does not a mix engineer make, and it certainly doesn't make a good mastering engineer.

This subject has been done to death on here but all you really need to take away from these discussions, is that if you *think* you can have a go at mastering your track, then that means you really don't fully understand what goes in to mastering, and that means you shouldn't even be attempting it so you answer is to not to try.

I promise you that you would know if you're up to mastering yourself.

It's like saying, "well I can cook ok, and I've got a garden so why don't I make my own wine to go with it?". Good luck.
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