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TED: The Great Porn Experiment [end your self-harm cycle] [women, watch too] (pg. 2)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anxieties
That being said, I didn't want this reaction but I could've avoided it if I was paying attention. I made a mistake. I should be more cautious when sharing anything claiming to be scientific evidence because it's only reasonable for others to assume that I whole-hardheartedly believe the Speaker's claims or blindly respect the Speaker (being fooled by false credentials). But if I do something as careless as this, the ridicule is to be expected. |
Don't worry, mate, it wasn't that bad :p
Now, what is it that you liked and didn't like about the video? Even if it's rubbish, you probably felt an idea or two were interesting enough to deserve a thread, right? Talk about them. You don't have to be right at first, all you need to do is come up with a good topic for discussion :) |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Anxieties, I think you are giving Arbiter more credit then he deserves. He did attack the speaker but that was pretty much it. He pointed out the speakers credentials but didn't attack anything that the speaker actually said in attempt to prove any of what was said to be false. The speaker actually did dive into some science in the video and explained things in a clear and concise manor. I'd be very interested to see Arbiter attack the words that came out of the speakers mouth over what the listed credentials on his web site are. |
You don't need to be a brain surgeon to realize that it's a bad idea to hire a homeless guy off the street to perform brain surgery on you. It seems as if the very concept of evaluating whether or not someone claiming to have expertise that you don't possess is credible is lost on you, even though it's a basic life skill. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
thanks for at least getting arbiter to post :) and i agree with what he said, real scientists publish and research while sophists do talk shows or sell tickets to their rambling presentations.
the guy's delivery was way too ing annoying to sit through that . not having a porn problem its of little benefit to me anyway. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
You don't need to be a brain surgeon to realize that it's a bad idea to hire a homeless guy off the street to perform brain surgery on you. It seems as if the very concept of evaluating whether or not someone claiming to have expertise that you don't possess is credible is lost on you, even though it's a basic life skill. |
If a bum said 1+1=2, I wouldn't tell him that because he is a bum and didn't graduate from college with a degree relating to math that he's a "nutbag" for saying so.
I'm simply interested in hearing what you might have to say that discredits the words that came out of the speaker's mouth.
Side note: here is a direct link to the speaker's bio -> http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/about-us
I wouldn't exactly call him a "nutbag" for spending as much time in school and doing the amount or type of scientific research that he does. I think he is worth listening to before just jumping down his throat without coming up with a valid argument against what he is actually saying.
At any rate, thanks for posting the vid. I at least enjoyed watching and listening to it. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
real scientists publish, do research and do talk shows or sell tickets to their rambling presentations; sophists only do the latter half |
Fixed. There are loads of good scientists that give TED talks, and exposing your ideas this way is almost as important as publishing them in a peer-reviewed journal (something sophists seem to forget). |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| yeah fair call, appreciate the fix marcus! |
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| Chimney |
Nothing wrong with porn. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
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| saluyamo |
| Does he talk about Japanese porn? Because I think the females who sign up to that are the ones that need help :nervous: |
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| Vector A |
I watched it, thought it was crap.
If nearly all guys use Internet porn, as he noted in his "lack of control group" remarks, then the natural question is this: Why do only some small fraction of them use it compulsively or perceive it as causing problems? We might also ask what percentage of the users actually experience erectile dysfunction concurrent with heavy porn use, and whether their ED (and perhaps their extensive porn use) might be caused by other health issues, such as being massively overweight from sitting at the computer and eating Cheetos for hours. But we don't get information about this stuff from the talk.
Also, lol at the way he portrays the supposedly wondrous new lives of guys who decide to quit porn. This is just the same "high" the body gives most people when they undergo any systematic deprivation of an accustomed physical pleasure. For example, new dieters, or people undergoing a fast, often talk about the same sort of feeling: remarkable "clear-headedness," a new sense of purpose and energy, and so on. That generally lasts somewhere from a week to a month, which funnily enough happens to be when people start falling off the "wagon" in droves. Oh well, enjoy it while it lasts, I guess?
"NoFap" exists in a context (Reddit) in which thousands of young males regularly lament their inability to find a girlfriend, get a date, or even talk to women their age like normal human beings. The pat anti-porn crusader "explanation" for this would be that porn has disfigured their perceptions of women and rendered their bodies deaf to arousal by real women rather than images. But what about considering the opposite causal chain: perhaps the ones who end up with a "porn problem" are just those ones who already had problematic, unsatisfying social and romantic lives. Porn might provide one more route to escapism for them, but it can't explain their need to escape in the first place. Just a thought!
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I can't see how I would've endured my long-distance relationship without the occasional date with Rosie Palms. |
+1
Interesting video. Thanks for sharing. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
If a bum said 1+1=2, I wouldn't tell him that because he is a bum and didn't graduate from college with a degree relating to math that he's a "nutbag" for saying so. |
Can you possibly be this dense? |
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| dj_alfi |
| I thought this thread was gonna be a plea for Ted Promo to get professional help. |
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