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EZOO + EDC + SENSATION (New York) = ??? (pg. 5)
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| edubbz |
No, it's not moving anywhere. Simply bought two vacant locations adjacent to Hart Plaza. And in the new grounds is where the main stage will be now hosted, where he plans to put up the nowadays pop acts.
The article is in the DEMF thread, if you search in the last pages you will find it. |
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| djmanu |
| quote: | Originally posted by edubbz
Djmanu, thanks for sharing your .02 on this topic. Interesting to hear the point of view from the other side. But I'm really curious, do you believe the line-ups, ambiance, environment, (girls? Lol), quality of music, the festival overall, to be better here?
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The lineups are not so good in European festivals, let's say you don't have big festival with Tiesto, Armin, Ferry and all the big names unlike UMF or EDC.
For the ambiance, I thought that people were more extravangant in the US and the crowd more diverse.
What I don't like in the US is that people take wayy more drugs than in Belgium, in Belgium I know maybe 1 or 2 friends that take things and they have bad reputation but 99% just drink and enjoy the music and yes we drink a lot, maybe 20 beers for a day in a festival, so we don't need anything else :) .
Just my 2 cents ... |
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| kingchinc |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmanu
The lineups are not so good in European festivals, let's say you don't have big festival with Tiesto, Armin, Ferry and all the big names unlike UMF or EDC.
For the ambiance, I thought that people were more extravangant in the US and the crowd more diverse.
What I don't like in the US is that people take wayy more drugs than in Belgium, in Belgium I know maybe 1 or 2 friends that take things and they have bad reputation but 99% just drink and enjoy the music and yes we drink a lot, maybe 20 beers for a day in a festival, so we don't need anything else :) .
Just my 2 cents ... |
yeah...ok, chief |
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| EarnYourKeep |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmanu
The lineups are not so good in European festivals, let's say you don't have big festival with Tiesto, Armin, Ferry and all the big names unlike UMF or EDC.
For the ambiance, I thought that people were more extravangant in the US and the crowd more diverse.
What I don't like in the US is that people take wayy more drugs than in Belgium, in Belgium I know maybe 1 or 2 friends that take things and they have bad reputation but 99% just drink and enjoy the music and yes we drink a lot, maybe 20 beers for a day in a festival, so we don't need anything else :) .
Just my 2 cents ... |
you just casted a whole load of doubt on any credibility you had
lets take the european festival "AWAKENINGS" in October.
Day 1 - Carl Cox + Friends
Day 2 - Drumcode with Paul Ritch live, Joseph Capriati, Beyer, + crew
Day 3 - Richie Hawtin, Loco Dice, Dubfire, Matador
can you find me a 3 day US festival that would have names/labels such as that for under 45EU per day ticket prices
At 135EU which is roughly 170USD for 3 days of SPECTACULAR acts compared to say 1 DAY EZOO PASS at 177USD
And you're saying Belgium has less drug abuse compared to the US? I can say WYOMING has a less drug abuse rate then London to compare apples to apples if you really wanted to go down that route.
Please stop posting a lot of people here are well traveled |
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| yankeeBaby |
| Why all the hating, maybe that's just the guys experience? I think maybe you guys are comparing two different desires in festivals, as clearly longing for Armin and Tiesto are a whole different vibe than wishing for Cox and Hawtin as headliners, ya know? It's like apples n oranges. I have to say though (Ibiza aside since I have never been) I did notice the few times I went to music events in Europe that the Brits were heavily using the drugs while most other nationalities were not. That's just what *I* saw with my own two eyes and what was told to me by foreign friends ;) |
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| yankeeBaby |
| Oh yeah, but I do agree that our prices suckkkkkkkk a big dick in comparison! |
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| gimmebeatz |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmanu
The lineups are not so good in European festivals, let's say you don't have big festival with Tiesto, Armin, Ferry and all the big names unlike UMF or EDC.
For the ambiance, I thought that people were more extravangant in the US and the crowd more diverse.
What I don't like in the US is that people take wayy more drugs than in Belgium, in Belgium I know maybe 1 or 2 friends that take things and they have bad reputation but 99% just drink and enjoy the music and yes we drink a lot, maybe 20 beers for a day in a festival, so we don't need anything else :) .
Just my 2 cents ... |
i would completely disagree that the whole overall production/ambiance is better in the US than europe. European festivals put way more lights, lasers, and pyrotechnics into their events than the US ones.
also on the drug note, having gone to trance energy in 2008 in holland, it was extremely tough finding drugs at the event. people were on them everywhere but the only reason we were able to find some was because we new a native who had a bunch of friends who knew people. no one was selling which is completely opposite of what we expected. |
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| edubbz |
Well, Belgium sure does have the BEST beer in the world, I can attest to that, so I can see how chugging 20 beers is feasible. As for me though, 3-5 beers and some greenery (a must) would suffice. I would have to disagree that the US has better line-ups than Europe though. Because for as long as I can remember, for the many years I've been comparing line-ups, US never came close to that of EU's. Prices? *Pft* No need to get into that.
Yankeebaby, I'm with you. We're comparing apples and oranges so we can't really relate. I can see why djmanu would think it's better over here with the diversity and all. That's prob about the ONLY thing I can say that is in our favor- hova said it best, "...That's fried chicken, curry chicken damn I'm getting fat...arroz con pollo, french fries and crepe...an appetite for destruction but I SCRAPE THE PLATE." |
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| ramsau |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmanu
What I don't like in the US is that people take wayy more drugs than in Belgium |
No, people don't do more drugs in US than in Europe. It may seem like they do, but only because the rager kids are extremely obnoxious about it. Europeans are way more civil about it. You don't really know if people are on drugs or just drunk in Europe. Here.. You'll know.
And trust me, living in United States has almost killed my love to go in to the clubs and festivals, so it's not about "the grass is greener on the other side.."
The problem with US festivals is plainly the lack of good production, experience (ie. everything in the festival goes smoothly, no hiccups) and using the same 10 DJs ON EVERY SINGLE FESTIVAL. There's absolutely no imagination whatsoever, everybody just tries to milk the cow as long as she's producing milk.
Dislike.
And speaking about diversity of the crowd.. Where else in the world can you have so many nationalities in one place than Europe? |
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| djmanu |
Yes I agree that Europe has best productions, worse of all: I hate doing lines at bars, restrooms, entrance ... like here in North America.
For the lineups, I was talking about trance (not minimal/tech ...), the fact is trance is dying in Europe and it's still alive here (also for regular club nights).
And for the prices, as I said, salaries are lower there.
That's just my experience having done festivals in Europe for more than 10 years (and did tomorrowland from the 1 year with only 10k people :p ). |
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| Armitage350 |
| quote: | Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Why all the hating, maybe that's just the guys experience? I think maybe you guys are comparing two different desires in festivals, as clearly longing for Armin and Tiesto are a whole different vibe than wishing for Cox and Hawtin as headliners, ya know? It's like apples n oranges. I have to say though (Ibiza aside since I have never been) I did notice the few times I went to music events in Europe that the Brits were heavily using the drugs while most other nationalities were not. That's just what *I* saw with my own two eyes and what was told to me by foreign friends ;) |
Werd.
| quote: | Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Oh yeah, but I do agree that our prices suckkkkkkkk a big dick in comparison! |
Werd. Again. |
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| EarnYourKeep |
I'm a bit amused at the fact that the people who purchased EZOO tickets are getting shafted left and right, i understand some of my friends are incorporated with that, I'm just saying that collectively bringing awareness is probably the only thing WE could do outside of bitching and moaning individually.
I just saw, Made claiming no responsibility for taking peoples 300+ in advance and then customers never receiving tickets
And then putting out so early on the ability to purchase tickets without posting a line up.
There should be some tax/ny state law that states a group can't promote a party without providing the actual terms of service before collecting sales for that event.
I feel like MADE shafted everyone with EZOO, I feel like Insomniac shafted everyone with EDC, and sensation as a brand when promoted by ID&T has a great legacy but not here in NY and not for $160+ for 6 hours in one night.
THIS MONEY HUNGRY YOU KILLING HOW WE REALLY DO |
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