last time i saw him (2-3 yrs ago) he closed with 1998(gouryella remix) followed by out of the blue (GO remix). I thinks this is his standard way to close the sets
SYSTEM-J
Semi-related: I dug out Trance Nation Four from the archives and had a nostalgic listen today. It's .
blackplanet
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Semi-related: I dug out Trance Nation Four from the archives and had a nostalgic listen today. It's .
I've got Trance Nation 2 on the go at the moment (usually do around this time every year) and would say the opposite. For a CD which was a commercially-aimed anthem-fest, it is pretty well programmed and has not a single track I want to skip.
Trance-MB
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Originally posted by blackplanet
I've got Trance Nation 2 on the go at the moment (usually do around this time every year) and would say the opposite. For a CD which was a commercially-aimed anthem-fest, it is pretty well programmed and has not a single track I want to skip.
Indeed One and Two are very good. Three I listened back then but didn't buy it, wasn't good enough. Four I even can't remember listening.
Sykonee
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Semi-related: I dug out Trance Nation Four from the archives and had a nostalgic listen today. It's .
Had to check the tracklist for that. How can a DJ mix that features Kernkraft 400 and Sandstorm in the opening fifteen minutes be !?:eyes:
That's some straight up Jock Jams dynamite there!
SYSTEM-J
The first disc is obviously nonsense, although fun in its own way. My fond memories were mainly reserved for the second disc, in which Ferry attempts to craft something deeper and more structured. A contemporary analysis reveals that the flow is rubbish, the mixing average and his repeated use of inferior versions of good tracks just irritating.
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Trance Nation was just a hit-fest, but Solar Serenades was pretty much the kind of set he would play in clubs back then. He has also played OOTB mid-set in clubs as well, as this tracklist shows:
So yeah, the man who created the track didn't seem to agree with you. Not that Ferry Corsten was ever a great DJ, but I never particularly saw Out Of The Blue as a set-closer either. Certainly a big anthem, but in a formal sense I would say a closing track should build towards a climax, reaching maximum intensity right near the end. Out Of The Blue has the same double-breakdown structure as most epic trance hits from the late '90s. I also think it's quite pacey, keeps up the momentum with short breakdowns and little in the way of long build-ups. For me it's more the kind of track you'd play mid-set because it would let a DJ put in a big anthemic melody without necessarily killing the energy levels.
I can think of plenty of other classic EDM tracks that "give a better sense of ending". This one immediately springs to mind:
OK, Now you're entering sacred territory for me here. Serious Kudos for even bringing that up.
However, No other love (and I own that exact limited 7" vinyl on smi)e and the white label promo) was never a set closer in my mind, Of all the sets I either heard it live or recorded (EM's etc) it was never played last. Peak time? hell yes. Near the end? Yes. Last? no.
Out of the blue? nearly a dozen times last tune back in the days when i went clubbing in the heydays of the 90's.
Not that I have much love for it, my feelings are pretty clear about it. I could easily name 4 other tracks that I A) prefer and B) make a better closer.
SYSTEM-J
First time I heard it in a mix (John Digweed's Essential Mix from 1995) he closed on it. I'd loved to know how you mix out of that track at peak time.
Sand Leaper
It seems to be somewhat of a trend that the major dutch epic trance mongers had a more versatile phase in the beginning of their careers. Then, when epic trance took off, they all realized that it made commercial sense to fully pursue the formula established by Out Of The Blue. That's why, for instance, Armin stopped making house with Olav Basoski, and Ferry stopped bothering to make stuff like this:
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by Sand Leaper
First time I heard it in a mix (John Digweed's Essential Mix from 1995) he closed on it. I'd loved to know how you mix out of that track at peak time.
The mix that got me in to house. Played 3rd from last and makes total sense. I only found out 10 years later after not thinking much of his talents that it was Pete Tong. EM 28th Jan 1996. I strongly suggest you get that one if you don't already. ing amazing. the mixing from a technical standpoint is shockingly bad in places but the crowd (and myself) really don't care.
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Originally posted by Sand Leaper
It seems to be somewhat of a trend that the major dutch epic trance mongers had a more versatile phase in the beginning of their careers. Then, when epic trance took off, they all realized that it made commercial sense to fully pursue the formula established by Out Of The Blue. That's why, for instance, Armin stopped making house with Olav Basoski, and Ferry stopped bothering to make stuff like this:
Because (and I've long argued this so it's good to see someone else pointing it out) that Epic house (as it was called in the UK) is a different thing to trance. Yes the germans always called it trance blahblahblah, but epic house(or trance) was way more diverse than trance which to me was a later and more formulaic than it's roots.
Totally agree with Alfi; Armin has done a lot to control the type of music being put out there and really push one type that he has his base in.
A mate just got a job in the middle east and gave me all his records which are similar to my existing collection. The crazy thing I noticed when digging through them was how many came off tiny labels that were doing their own thing, and even so diverse among their own catalogues.
SYSTEM-J
Does he play the full track, or mix out halfway through? I'm just honestly struggling to see how you could mix out of that ending without it utterly killing the energy.
DJ RANN
I know what you mean but I think he near enough plays the full track, and it works. The corwd is going bonkers and weirdly it sounds better even with a ty EM recording than my vinyl. The tracks that come afterwards have even more energy, so I think that's how he makes it work.
